VOC Sabre yes/no

Valk · 3rd January 2009, 10:31 AM

Thanks everybody,

I asked an expert in Holland. Probably it is a real old Sabre. Likely it is composite from two swords. A French Briquet (1809/1811) and an VOC chamber Hoorn kling (blade).

It was common for militia and for the garde-champêtre (=patrolman) in Dutch Indonesia to build there own (cheap) sabre.

He send me the pictures of the Briquet. Although the number of ribs on the handle don’t match (mine has 30, and the briquet 36?). The rest is identical.

Now I focus on the VOC chamber kling (perhaps a sort Pedang Soenda??).

I know there are different translations (VOC). Mine came from: http://library.thinkquest.org/26488/en/index.html

Once more, thanks for the info.

Peter

Jeff D · 3rd January 2009, 06:51 PM

Hi Valk,

The French briquet is the ubiquitous brass hilts M ELEY was refering to. Yours is slightly different. If you look at the end of the quillion it has a nipple shape rather than the more common blunt tip as seen in the picture or the flattened scroll as seen in the Dutch naval saber. Your hilt may be a later replacement, but it may also be original. The answer lies in dating that 'nipple' tip quillion.

All the best
Jeff

3rd January 2009, 10:31 AM	#1
Valk Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2	Thanks everybody, I asked an expert in Holland. Probably it is a real old Sabre. Likely it is composite from two swords. A French Briquet (1809/1811) and an VOC chamber Hoorn kling (blade). It was common for militia and for the garde-champêtre (=patrolman) in Dutch Indonesia to build there own (cheap) sabre. He send me the pictures of the Briquet. Although the number of ribs on the handle don’t match (mine has 30, and the briquet 36?). The rest is identical. Now I focus on the VOC chamber kling (perhaps a sort Pedang Soenda??). I know there are different translations (VOC). Mine came from: http://library.thinkquest.org/26488/en/index.html Once more, thanks for the info. Peter Attached Images

3rd January 2009, 06:51 PM	#2
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Valk, The French briquet is the ubiquitous brass hilts M ELEY was refering to. Yours is slightly different. If you look at the end of the quillion it has a nipple shape rather than the more common blunt tip as seen in the picture or the flattened scroll as seen in the Dutch naval saber. Your hilt may be a later replacement, but it may also be original. The answer lies in dating that 'nipple' tip quillion. All the best Jeff