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WELCOME TO THE FORUM
![]() I HAVE NO KNOWLEGE ON THESE SWORDS BUT AS A REPLY SEEMS TO BE SLOW IN COMING I WILL MAKE A SUGGESTION. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION ON THE CURRENT FORUM FOR VOC AND THEN GO TO THE FORUM ARCHIVES AND SEARCH THERE. IF YOU STILL DO NOT FIND THE INFORMATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SEE WHO THE MOST KNOWLEGABLE FORUM MEMBERS IN THE POSTS ARE AND SEND THEM AN EMAIL. GOOD LUCK |
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Hullo Valk,
Welcome to the forum. In the absence of any info so far, I am putting my input. I hope it is of some help. Your blade looks like it was made in Hoorn in 1774. The VOC had contracts to build and operate foundaries in such places as India. Among the things produced in these places were blades for trade/commerce. I am including info/fotos for a Pedang Soenda with such a blade. Name: Si Loetoeng Cat.: PedangSoenda Type: Pedang Abet Pamoeka Blade: VOC sabre, 49.5cm., 0.35cm thick Handle: Makara Bolong, buffalo horn Age: c. 1773 Origin: Tatar Soenda mvg, Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 2nd January 2009 at 08:39 PM. Reason: resize fotos |
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The blade and the hilt don't seem to be the same age at least as far as wear and abuse goes .
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Not necessarily so. Iron will act as the sacrificial electrode when in contact with copper or brass. It would corrode at an accelerated rate and should therefore look much more abused. All the Best Jeff |
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Unfortunately, the hilt on this sword is one of those generic pattern artillary hilts found on French, Prussian and Spanish pieces roughly of the period ca.1830-1890. I'm not familiar with any Dutch pieces having this hilt. I thought that the VOC stood for the Dutch East India Company? I'm not familiar with the 'United Dutch East Asia Company', as I assumed after the the East India trading company went under circa 1800, there were no further companies involved? Interesting. So...if this Dutch East Asia Co existed into the 19th century, it could be a real piece. If not and the VOC stands for the earlier company, it has either been re-hilted or is a fake. I guess one other possibility is that someone affectionately inscribed it on a later sword out of found rememberence of the company.
If the VOC marking is attached to a later company (this Asia company you speak of), this might explain why this marking is sometimes found on more 19th century pieces. Shaver Cool, anyone?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, Jim! Couldn't resist!! |
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Slowly I turned .....
![]() ![]() Thanks Jeff for that tidbit about the reaction . |
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Although way out of my area, I did find this listed as a Dutch pattern Naval Hanger by R.J.Wilkinson-Latham in Pictorial history of swords and Bayonets . Undated and with different quillions, but may show a pattern of lineage from the VOC saber above.
Hi Rick, glad to help. ![]() All the Best Jeff |
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De Verenigde Oostindische Compagnie (The United Dutch East Asia Company): the words in brackets are Valk's free translation from the Dutch. Don't be too harsh. ![]() Best, |
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It don't look like an real one .
But they told you almost the same on this forum http://www.swordfactsbenelux.nl/foru...php?f=4&t=1189 Ben |
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