Wahabbi Jambiya

Emanuel · 22nd December 2008, 05:39 AM

Since I first read "sabiki" in Elgood I wondered about the root of this word. In Polish "sablje" means sword, and this word has been adopted in French and English as "sabre" and even Romanian as "sabie". Of course it could very well be coincidence, but I wonder...

Can anyone enlighten the roots of these two words?

Michael Blalock · 22nd December 2008, 01:08 PM

This is just speculation but;:

SBK is the root for foundry سبك
and masbak= Place of foundry مسبك

So maybe, sabiky = Of the foundry? سبكي
Though I did not find this in a dictionary.

Emanuel · 22nd December 2008, 03:49 PM

Thanks Micheal.

A bit of research on my part shows that the slavic word sablje comes from Hungarian "szablya" itself supposedly derived from the verb "szab" = to taylor.
Perhaps "tayloring" and metal casting have some connection?

One taylors garments to fit their user, as one taylors metal parts to fit an assembly and match its user.

A bit of a stretch, I know...

Lew · 22nd December 2008, 04:03 PM

Manolo

I think we are stretching it here with the Slavic translation for taylor?

Lew

Battara · 22nd December 2008, 04:47 PM

You guys sure are punny!

Lew · 3rd January 2009, 04:06 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfS3C...eature=related

Seems the Yemen men hold the dagger in the same manner. This may be a non threatening posture when held in this fashion for ceremonies?

Lew

spiral · 6th January 2009, 07:36 PM

I thought they were used the way they were drawn? Point forward?

A slash that way would leave a jagged & ugly wound on a mans face or body, Not good fun in a warmer bacterial climate not used to microstiching etc. perhaps?

I think stones mentions most Jambia fights are about slashing? but kidney stabs also used to cause fatalities? {Thats just from shaky memory so I may be mistaken or quoting something else?}

Spiral

3rd January 2009, 04:06 AM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Jambiya dance in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfS3C...eature=related Seems the Yemen men hold the dagger in the same manner. This may be a non threatening posture when held in this fashion for ceremonies? Lew

22nd December 2008, 05:39 AM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Since I first read "sabiki" in Elgood I wondered about the root of this word. In Polish "sablje" means sword, and this word has been adopted in French and English as "sabre" and even Romanian as "sabie". Of course it could very well be coincidence, but I wonder... Can anyone enlighten the roots of these two words?

22nd December 2008, 01:08 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	This is just speculation but;: SBK is the root for foundry سبك and masbak= Place of foundry مسبك So maybe, sabiky = Of the foundry? سبكي Though I did not find this in a dictionary.

22nd December 2008, 03:49 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Thanks Micheal. A bit of research on my part shows that the slavic word sablje comes from Hungarian "szablya" itself supposedly derived from the verb "szab" = to taylor. Perhaps "tayloring" and metal casting have some connection? One taylors garments to fit their user, as one taylors metal parts to fit an assembly and match its user. A bit of a stretch, I know...

22nd December 2008, 04:03 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Manolo I think we are stretching it here with the Slavic translation for taylor? Lew

22nd December 2008, 04:47 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	You guys sure are punny!

6th January 2009, 07:36 PM	#7
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I thought they were used the way they were drawn? Point forward? A slash that way would leave a jagged & ugly wound on a mans face or body, Not good fun in a warmer bacterial climate not used to microstiching etc. perhaps? I think stones mentions most Jambia fights are about slashing? but kidney stabs also used to cause fatalities? {Thats just from shaky memory so I may be mistaken or quoting something else?} Spiral