Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 21st December 2008, 10:28 PM   #1
Michael Blalock
Member
 
Michael Blalock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: dc
Posts: 271
Default

Here is a video of a yemen battle charge, albeit staged for the camera. The jambiyas are all held in the same fashion as they are in the dances,(further in the video) with the concave edge forward. I never saw a sharp yemeni jambiya though and I would wager most of these warriors' jambiyas had blades made of welded sheet metal. If it really came to using the jambiya, there would most likely be no slicing, only stabbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEzXLpwGPB0

dancing
Attached Images
  
Michael Blalock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 03:18 AM   #2
kahnjar1
Member
 
kahnjar1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND
Posts: 2,789
Default SABAK,SABIKI

These particular Jambiya are called SABAK in the HIJAZ region and SABIKI in the ASIR region. The Wahhabis (after whom this particular type of Jambiya is popularly named) were just one of the many tribes who inhabit(ed) the Arabian Peninsula, and certainly were not the only tribes who used this type.
A few pics attached of these jambiya.
Attached Images
    
kahnjar1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 05:39 AM   #3
Emanuel
Member
 
Emanuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,242
Default

Since I first read "sabiki" in Elgood I wondered about the root of this word. In Polish "sablje" means sword, and this word has been adopted in French and English as "sabre" and even Romanian as "sabie". Of course it could very well be coincidence, but I wonder...

Can anyone enlighten the roots of these two words?
Emanuel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 01:08 PM   #4
Michael Blalock
Member
 
Michael Blalock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: dc
Posts: 271
Default

This is just speculation but;:

SBK is the root for foundry سبك
and masbak= Place of foundry مسبك

So maybe, sabiky = Of the foundry? سبكي
Though I did not find this in a dictionary.
Michael Blalock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 03:49 PM   #5
Emanuel
Member
 
Emanuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,242
Default

Thanks Micheal.

A bit of research on my part shows that the slavic word sablje comes from Hungarian "szablya" itself supposedly derived from the verb "szab" = to taylor.
Perhaps "tayloring" and metal casting have some connection?

One taylors garments to fit their user, as one taylors metal parts to fit an assembly and match its user.

A bit of a stretch, I know...
Emanuel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 04:03 PM   #6
Lew
(deceased)
 
Lew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Coast USA
Posts: 3,191
Default

Manolo

I think we are stretching it here with the Slavic translation for taylor?


Lew
Lew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd December 2008, 04:47 PM   #7
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,280
Default

You guys sure are punny!
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.