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Old 14th December 2008, 02:59 AM   #1
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Probably couldn't get any first fleet ferric material. If I did, and if I used it, they would probably put me jail for 25 to life.

Could do meteoritic material. I welded meteorite into a bakalan a number of times back in the early 1990's---this was pure meteorite, Canyon Diablo. It was not meteorite held together with iron to enable welding.Some of these meteorite bakalan were handed to a Solo maker and used as pamor in keris. The result is shown.

The whole problem with me making a keris for anybody is that I work with traditional tools and not electric tools. Shortest time it has ever taken me to make a keris was 16 days. Longest time was 49 days. These are 8 and 10 hour days. On Australian wage rates that makes my work completely out of the market.

Maybe we could make it a tangguh Khangghuru ?
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Old 14th December 2008, 05:07 PM   #2
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A broad Cirebon keris, 40 cm long, 13 flowing luks, featured with all well defined kembang kacang, jenggot, jalen, two lambe gajah, jalu memet, bungkul, pejetan, pair of sogokan, tikel alis, sraweyan, ada-ada, tungkakan, greneng robyong, "God-given" wos wutah pamor, solid blade, ivory raksasa hilt with swasa selut and mendak, dressed in swasa long gone Cirebon sendang walikat sheath.

P.S. swasa is upgradable to gold or downgradable to silver dipending on the world economic conditions
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Old 15th December 2008, 09:44 PM   #3
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Hi all, I'm currently making my dream keris Balinese 19.75" long, dapur Pasopati, wos wutah/ngulit semangka pamor, 12 meteorites, 30 irons (Roman to 1900) 4" wide at the gongo (third attempt gongo! ) 5/8" thick.

Kiai-many thanks for the vote of confidence, but I wouldn't call myself an mpu (or a master), just a crazy Englishman who likes making keris.

Sneak preview below.... It no longer has this gongo, made a right mess of it!!
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Old 16th December 2008, 06:43 PM   #4
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Lemmy,

I think you need to start taking orders soon!

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Old 16th December 2008, 09:49 PM   #5
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I am lucky ! my dream keris exist :
A kris Nagakresna,XIX century, Surakarta.
Page 161 of court art of Indonesia
A beauty !

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Old 18th December 2008, 06:46 PM   #6
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I am lucky ! my dream keris exist :
A kris Nagakresna,XIX century, Surakarta.
Page 161 of court art of Indonesia
A beauty !

Michel

I totally agree with you.
This is the best keris, sarong, hit i never seen
For my taste an absolute masterpiece .
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Old 18th December 2008, 08:37 PM   #7
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Well Michel and Marco (and others presenting already existing keris), as has been pointed out, the question is what keris would you create from scratch. This can never be your dream keris because , barring a miracle, it can never be yours. I would like to believe that someday ALL our dreams might come true. So if you had a copy of it made is there not one thing you would change to somehow fit your own persona?
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Old 17th December 2008, 05:48 AM   #8
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Kiai-many thanks for the vote of confidence, but I wouldn't call myself an mpu (or a master), just a crazy Englishman who likes making keris.
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Lemmy, no real Mpu would call himself or herself an Mpu. So by saying that you would not call yourself an Mpu, it shows that you might be one!

I really like what I have seen of your work, and as this a fantasy thread, I would like to offer you a fantasy dowry for your work as well.

Seeing that the pound is falling daily at the moment, would you prefer to be paid in dinars?
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Old 17th December 2008, 07:14 AM   #9
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Yeah---well---we can all dream, can't we?

Kiai, have ever noticed that khanghuru is exactly the right pawakan for a keris?

Assymetric it is, and more or less triangular into the bargain. You could make an entire blade that more or less resembled a khanghuru.

Michel that dream keris of yours might already exist, but Jussi's question was related to getting a new keris made, so if that Surakarta keris is your idea of something good, you would need to find somebody to copy. Sorry---you cannot have the one that already exists.
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Old 17th December 2008, 12:32 PM   #10
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Jussi's question was related to getting a new keris made
That it precisely what I meant. - No existing kerises are allowed. On a perfect world IŽd like to acquire something like a fusion of sorts between these pictured on Mr. Maiseys website.

I have no idea what such beast would be like but these kerises, especially the two on the middle, rock my boat hard so to speak




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Old 17th December 2008, 01:34 PM   #11
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Ahh, Mas Budi's Kebo !!

One of my favorites .
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Old 22nd December 2008, 03:45 AM   #12
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The contrast and the brightness of the pamor in these kerises is better than any keris or photograph of a kerises that I have ever seen. Are they really this bright in real life? What causes the absolute contrast is it the material of the pamor or is it superior marangi process?

Pak Alan, I think the time has come to make a dhapur kanghuru. What would be an appropriate new pamor?

Lemmy, pounds of gold are coming your way

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone,

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Old 17th December 2008, 05:44 AM   #13
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The whole problem with me making a keris for anybody is that I work with traditional tools and not electric tools. Shortest time it has ever taken me to make a keris was 16 days. Longest time was 49 days. These are 8 and 10 hour days. On Australian wage rates that makes my work completely out of the market.

Maybe we could make it a tangguh Khangghuru ?
Tangguh Khangguru dhapur mlumpat might be appropriate Pak Alan. Maybe it would have a winking kangaroo head instead of a tlale gajah.

As this is only fantasy, I would have no problem in paying you in Australian dollars. I would count 60 working days and pay you $500 - $1000 a day, so the blade would cost between $30.000 to $60.000 - not much at all for a fantasy keris, don't you think? You get contemporary paintings that fetch more than that at Christy's - so why not a keris?

Thanks for uploading the photos of the meteorite keris, very nice!
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