Size Difference of Moro Spears

MABAGANI · 11th December 2004, 06:10 PM

Tim, see Malay World Edged Weapons site- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/ , discription under Indonesian tombak.

Tim Simmons · 11th December 2004, 08:54 PM

Hi,thank you ,Malaysia or Java thats quite a distance betwean the two.I do not know much about pieces from this area.I will collect anything that seems right at the time.Tim

tom hyle · 15th December 2004, 02:40 AM

Tim, I think that might be Sumatran. Note the small disk guard, the swelled tip, and the second ferule (that is a second ferule, isn't it?).

MABAGANI · 15th December 2004, 06:02 AM

From the Malay World Edged Weapons site- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/ -"The Malay Peninsula Lembing usually has a raised central ridge (ada-ada) and it is elongated. The shaft is decorated with a long ferrule with engraved silver or copper and a disk between the blade and the ferrule."
btw if we were to broaden the term from the earliest Spanish use "Moro" -interconnected groups would have included Muslim Malay kingdoms of Brunei, Makassar, Ternate, Tidore aside from Mindanao and Sulu, but classically we refer to the two later regions.

15th December 2004, 06:02 AM	#4
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	From the Malay World Edged Weapons site- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/ -"The Malay Peninsula Lembing usually has a raised central ridge (ada-ada) and it is elongated. The shaft is decorated with a long ferrule with engraved silver or copper and a disk between the blade and the ferrule." btw if we were to broaden the term from the earliest Spanish use "Moro" -interconnected groups would have included Muslim Malay kingdoms of Brunei, Makassar, Ternate, Tidore aside from Mindanao and Sulu, but classically we refer to the two later regions. Last edited by MABAGANI; 15th December 2004 at 06:34 AM.

11th December 2004, 06:10 PM	#1
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Tim, see Malay World Edged Weapons site- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/ , discription under Indonesian tombak.

11th December 2004, 08:54 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	Hi,thank you ,Malaysia or Java thats quite a distance betwean the two.I do not know much about pieces from this area.I will collect anything that seems right at the time.Tim

15th December 2004, 02:40 AM	#3
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Tim, I think that might be Sumatran. Note the small disk guard, the swelled tip, and the second ferule (that is a second ferule, isn't it?).