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Old 7th December 2008, 08:44 PM   #1
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It's rattan.

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Old 8th December 2008, 03:07 AM   #2
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Hi Michael the first 2 pieces are missing the fat metal below the handle that
we mostly see on the L T the one you will get has the metal below the Handle .

Are the 2 first ones have heavy blade's ??

It looks that those 2 are more an variation between the parang niabor / L T

can you send close upp pics off the handle s .


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Old 8th December 2008, 04:59 AM   #3
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Hi Ben.

I already have the last one but I haven't had time to take my own pictures of it.
The "missing" fat metal is common but not something that always is there.
The LT in the museum of Nijmegen for instance doesn't have it either.
That one also has a triangular crowit resembling my first (and the one pictured in Iban Art).
All of them have thick shoulders and are quite heavy, but well balanced.
It's interesting that the one described in Shelford doesn't seem to have the crowit we usually associate with a LT?
There seems to be quite a variation of features on the LT, like the Ilang.
On the best one I have seen so far the crowit stands out even more than your other one
(the one that I owned for some years) and the blade is heavy decorated.

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Old 8th December 2008, 12:17 PM   #4
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Ben,

Very nice Langai Tinggai. I like the scabbard.
But as for the age you say :
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first part off the 19 centh.
Do you mean this to be between 1800 - 1850 ?

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Old 8th December 2008, 06:17 PM   #5
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Hi Ben.

I already have the last one but I haven't had time to take my own pictures of it.
The "missing" fat metal is common but not something that always is there.
The LT in the museum of Nijmegen for instance doesn't have it either.
That one also has a triangular crowit resembling my first (and the one pictured in Iban Art).
All of them have thick shoulders and are quite heavy, but well balanced.
It's interesting that the one described in Shelford doesn't seem to have the crowit we usually associate with a LT?
There seems to be quite a variation of features on the LT, like the Ilang.
On the best one I have seen so far the crowit stands out even more than your other one
(the one that I owned for some years) and the blade is heavy decorated.

Michael
Michael I think that the ones with the fat metal are a little closer to the parang niabor because we find the same just a little longer on the niabor also
the area has maybe something to do with it but the first handle is for sure Saribas area .

Shelford says about the lT that it is practically the same as the niabor with the handle of an parang Ilang .
And the niabor has the fat metal below the handle.

(I am glad that the other one LT is back after years with you .)

can you make some nice pics about your last LT

Ben

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Old 8th December 2008, 06:33 PM   #6
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Yes, the other one of yours is a top piece too.
I agree that the LT and the Parang Nyabur are very close to each other but as usual some individual variations show up now and then.
For instance the crowit of my LT #2 is very close to a kundieng of the Nyabur.
It's too dark here now and I am almost never at home during daylight.
So it will take some time before I will take pictures of the last months acquisitions.

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Old 8th December 2008, 07:17 PM   #7
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Hi Michael

Yes that is the strange about it they are closer with that to an Niabor .

So difficult with the variations .

But always nice to know that they are there .


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Old 14th December 2008, 08:27 AM   #8
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Arjan can you put some pics off your LT on this thread .




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