Stick, a question of balance

fearn · 7th December 2008, 04:48 AM

Hi David,

I did read that sentence a couple of times, and I'm willing to give Tim the benefit of the doubt. My thought was that " Are we looking at 'uggamugga me find look good on stick' was aimed at an English bloke doing some "re-ddecorating"

to sell an antique, not an African. Otherwise, that I would agree that it could be offensive.

Primarily, I'd say that we've got so many people for whom English is a second (or perhaps, fourth) language that we need to be *very* careful with our sarcasm. It's bad enough that we Americans, Brits, Scots, and Aussies all seem to think we're speaking the same language, let alone try to communicate irony across oceans!

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Tim Simmons · 7th December 2008, 02:10 PM

I did not mean to upset any rather too keen sensibilities, in my threads I am indeed most often trying to rid the apparently simple from too long a held notion of primitive and unsophisticated. I always champion the subtle skills of people from cultures that to many are only now accepting as being able to produce Art. "Uggamugga" expresses the ignorance of those who cannot and often will not see skill. I am sorry if I hurt you

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David · 7th December 2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I did not mean to upset any rather too keen sensibilities, in my threads I am indeed most often trying to rid the apparently simple from too long a held notion of primitive and unsophisticated. I always champion the subtle skills of people from cultures that to many are only now accepting as being able to produce Art. "Uggamugga" expresses the ignorance of those who cannot and often will not see skill. I am sorry if I hurt you

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Thanks for your response and explanation Tim. Without it i would have continued to assume that your position was quite the opposite of what you have just expressed in this post. Glad to hear it is otherwise. And no worries mate, you didn't cause me any "hurt".

Tim Simmons · 7th December 2008, 06:27 PM

What I am trying to suggest is that the two parts came together not by random circumstance. But originates from the skill and knoweldge of a warrior or made by a specialist with guidance of the end user. That brings me to the possibility that the galvanized steel part is a requested item of trade. If so what seems a simple stick tell a long story?

http://eurofencecoatings.com/index.p...lvanising.html

7th December 2008, 04:48 AM	#1
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi David, I did read that sentence a couple of times, and I'm willing to give Tim the benefit of the doubt. My thought was that " Are we looking at 'uggamugga me find look good on stick' was aimed at an English bloke doing some "re-ddecorating" to sell an antique, not an African. Otherwise, that I would agree that it could be offensive. Primarily, I'd say that we've got so many people for whom English is a second (or perhaps, fourth) language that we need to be very careful with our sarcasm. It's bad enough that we Americans, Brits, Scots, and Aussies all seem to think we're speaking the same language, let alone try to communicate irony across oceans! F

7th December 2008, 02:10 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,880	I did not mean to upset any rather too keen sensibilities, in my threads I am indeed most often trying to rid the apparently simple from too long a held notion of primitive and unsophisticated. I always champion the subtle skills of people from cultures that to many are only now accepting as being able to produce Art. "Uggamugga" expresses the ignorance of those who cannot and often will not see skill. I am sorry if I hurt you .

7th December 2008, 06:27 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,880	What I am trying to suggest is that the two parts came together not by random circumstance. But originates from the skill and knoweldge of a warrior or made by a specialist with guidance of the end user. That brings me to the possibility that the galvanized steel part is a requested item of trade. If so what seems a simple stick tell a long story? http://eurofencecoatings.com/index.p...lvanising.html