Gothic crossbows in gemeral historic documents

Jim McDougall · 27th November 2008, 06:20 PM

That's always been my main aim, anyway.

Michael[/QUOTE]

OK Michael! ..was that a crossbow joke !

Just kidding

Really nice posting, and thank you for explaining the detail, what incredible dimension it adds to appreciating and understanding these fantastic works. I always think it is so interesting to see the weaponry we study in contemporary context, and in a sense is very much like a time machine.

In researching arms and armour its fascinating experiencing them in such context, much as A.V.B.Norman did in using artwork in establishing time periods for hilts, and I have seen the concept used widely in many references. Sometimes it is good to proceed with caution though, as Rembrandt for example, often used then modern weapons in Biblical and earlier historical contexts.

It is interesting also to see the work of Hans Holbein, which brings to mind the relief work on the daggers depicting his "Dance of Death" works, if I am correct (offhand cannot recall which of the two Holbeins did this work).

All the best,
Jim

Matchlock · 27th November 2008, 06:49 PM

Jim,

Thank you so much for writing in such detail and recalling the Holbein daggers.

I must confess being neither an expert in daggers nor in the two Hans Hollbeins but found these on the internet: both portraits are by Hans Holbein d.J. (the Younger).

The first is dated 1533.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 27th November 2008, 07:08 PM

Jim,

Actually my crossbow joke was meant just as ambiguous as you got it, my brilliant friend!

Michael

Matchlock · 4th December 2008, 02:58 PM

Expiation crosses were erected at road sides in the Middle Ages in reconciliation of a bloody deed.

Some of them show early forms of crossbows which had most probably been involved in the crime.

Michael

Matchlock · 27th March 2009, 04:38 PM

... featuring a steel bow.

On a painting of the Resurrection by Simon Franck, ca. 1525, in the basilica of Aschaffenburg/Northern Bavaria.

Michael

Matchlock · 27th March 2009, 05:01 PM

Details.

27th November 2008, 06:49 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The Holbein daggers Jim, Thank you so much for writing in such detail and recalling the Holbein daggers. I must confess being neither an expert in daggers nor in the two Hans Hollbeins but found these on the internet: both portraits are by Hans Holbein d.J. (the Younger). The first is dated 1533. Best, Michael Attached Images

4th December 2008, 02:58 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Early Crossbow illustrations on East German expiation crosses Expiation crosses were erected at road sides in the Middle Ages in reconciliation of a bloody deed. Some of them show early forms of crossbows which had most probably been involved in the crime. Michael Attached Images

27th March 2009, 04:38 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	An Early 16th Century Crossbow Veneered in White Bone ... featuring a steel bow. On a painting of the Resurrection by Simon Franck, ca. 1525, in the basilica of Aschaffenburg/Northern Bavaria. Michael Attached Images

27th March 2009, 05:01 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Details. Attached Images

27th November 2008, 06:20 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	That's always been my main aim, anyway. Michael[/QUOTE] OK Michael! ..was that a crossbow joke ! Just kidding Really nice posting, and thank you for explaining the detail, what incredible dimension it adds to appreciating and understanding these fantastic works. I always think it is so interesting to see the weaponry we study in contemporary context, and in a sense is very much like a time machine. In researching arms and armour its fascinating experiencing them in such context, much as A.V.B.Norman did in using artwork in establishing time periods for hilts, and I have seen the concept used widely in many references. Sometimes it is good to proceed with caution though, as Rembrandt for example, often used then modern weapons in Biblical and earlier historical contexts. It is interesting also to see the work of Hans Holbein, which brings to mind the relief work on the daggers depicting his "Dance of Death" works, if I am correct (offhand cannot recall which of the two Holbeins did this work). All the best, Jim

27th November 2008, 07:08 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Jim, Actually my crossbow joke was meant just as ambiguous as you got it, my brilliant friend! Michael