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Old 18th November 2008, 01:53 AM   #1
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I though everyone knew that rapier, while being a french word, derives from "ropera", or "espada ropera"ie. Sword of Clothes.

The ropera was characterized by a flimsier, lighter and faster type of blade, catalogued as a estoque, or piercing blade. The kind of damage it caused was far more lethal, if much less ghastly in appearance than the slashing common to the purely military blade, although the latter was sturdier. The psychological effect of the slashing wounds caused by the military blades was nothing to be ignored, either.

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BTW: Fernan's "entrances" comes from "entradas", or the data deposited in the CPU's memory to be used subsequently as needed...

BTW, Fernan

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Chris, I did not made a detective work. I have all those entrances on my computer, as I use them to study the rapier and other swords. What it seems is a can of worms for some people, is the origin of the term "rapier", which is clearly from french origin. Oh, I know William the Conqueror and all the normans were french spoken, but that was five centures back. Neverthless, the world is full of personal certainties, as Fernando Pessoa, the great portuguese poet, once wrotte in a poem titled "Tabaquería":



Não, não creio em mim.
Em todos os manicômios há doidos malucos com tantas certezas!
Eu, que não tenho nenhuma certeza, sou mais certo ou menos
certo?


Is this HEMA movement another english invention? I don´t have many references about it.
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Gonzalo

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Old 18th November 2008, 05:51 AM   #2
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I though everyone knew that rapier, while being a french word, derives from "ropera", or "espada ropera"ie. Sword of Clothes.

The ropera was characterized by a flimsier, lighter and faster type of blade, catalogued as a estoque, or piercing blade. The kind of damage it caused was far more lethal, if much less ghastly in appearance than the slashing common to the purely military blade, although the latter was sturdier. The psychological effect of the slashing wounds caused by the military blades was nothing to be ignored, either.

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BTW: Fernan's "entrances" comes from "entradas", or the data deposited in the CPU's memory to be used subsequently as needed...

BTW, Fernan

En este mundo traidor
Nada es verdad ni mentira
Todo depende del color
Del cristal con que se mira...
I completely agree, Manuel. By the way, you must understand portuguese very well, as it is almost the same languaje spoken in old times on Galicia.
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Old 18th November 2008, 11:57 AM   #3
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Hi Gonzal,

I'm sorry, but for some reason I mistook your comments as Fernando's. Both of you write very interesting posts.

Yep, Galicia and Portugal used to be the same Kingdom, long time ago.
If I recall correctly, Viriato was a celtic chieftain of the lusones tribe , wasn't he?

Galician and Portuguese languages have evolved a little bit differently though, albeit still being very, very similar. Which comes very handy when you want to enjoy a glass of "vino verde".

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I completely agree, Manuel. By the way, you must understand portuguese very well, as it is almost the same languaje spoken in old times on Galicia.
Un abrazo

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