Rare African sword from Bali

Tim Simmons · 17th November 2008, 06:58 PM

Bill I am not an expert but I can see no reason why the scabbard was not made for the knife. The knife fits, I got one from Freddy and I think they are great items to have. Just been reading "African Art & Leadership" 1971 {interesting but a little old fashioned in views also containing a slightly Erich Von Daniken chapter} which mentions the difficulties of attribution to artifacts between Tikar, Bamum, and Bamileke. As the Bali inhabit areas bordering all three it is not surpricing with trade and so on to see varriations. When one sees something shown one way in a publication does not mean they were never seen another way. I think I have drawn a circle in the right place for the Bali on this map.

katana · 17th November 2008, 08:04 PM

Hi Bill,
I believe Tim's comments about the possible origin of this type of small sword / scabbard are correct. In that the design is regional, rather than 'tribe specific'. I have this in my collection, I was assured by the seller that it was Bamum and was described as a 'King's' knife ...maybe.. I have never seen its equal

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2714

Kind Regards David

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Tim Simmons · 17th November 2008, 08:30 PM

I risk being a crashing bore if I am not already.

I only recieved this book today from a small seller through amazon for a truly amazing £8. What is nice, is the previous illustrious owner who has very kindly left lots of pencil edits and highlights. Lucky Lucky. Now thats what you call VooDoo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...k-Willett.html

Bill M · 18th November 2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I risk being a crashing bore if I am not already.

Just don't get your tusks caught as you crash through!

Note post #12 in particular

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=tikar

Tim Simmons · 18th November 2008, 10:06 PM

Yes that item is living with me for the forseeble future. What a slut

17th November 2008, 08:04 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Bill, I believe Tim's comments about the possible origin of this type of small sword / scabbard are correct. In that the design is regional, rather than 'tribe specific'. I have this in my collection, I was assured by the seller that it was Bamum and was described as a 'King's' knife ...maybe.. I have never seen its equal http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2714 Kind Regards David . Attached Images

17th November 2008, 08:30 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	I risk being a crashing bore if I am not already. I only recieved this book today from a small seller through amazon for a truly amazing £8. What is nice, is the previous illustrious owner who has very kindly left lots of pencil edits and highlights. Lucky Lucky. Now thats what you call VooDoo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...k-Willett.html Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 17th November 2008 at 09:01 PM.

17th November 2008, 06:58 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	Bill I am not an expert but I can see no reason why the scabbard was not made for the knife. The knife fits, I got one from Freddy and I think they are great items to have. Just been reading "African Art & Leadership" 1971 {interesting but a little old fashioned in views also containing a slightly Erich Von Daniken chapter} which mentions the difficulties of attribution to artifacts between Tikar, Bamum, and Bamileke. As the Bali inhabit areas bordering all three it is not surpricing with trade and so on to see varriations. When one sees something shown one way in a publication does not mean they were never seen another way. I think I have drawn a circle in the right place for the Bali on this map. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 17th November 2008 at 07:33 PM. Reason: spelling and adding stuff.

18th November 2008, 10:06 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	Yes that item is living with me for the forseeble future. What a slut