My Birthday Present: Knife for ID Please

Atlantia · 3rd November 2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Hi Manolo

Aren't Muslims prohibited to depict human (and other) figures ?
... Probably i am talking nonsense again

Fernando

Quite right mate. In a strict interpretation, images of any living creatures are off limits, but some less strict muslim cultures seem to have a more liberal view of this.

Gavin Nugent · 3rd November 2008, 11:44 AM

What a generous Mum you have there, I watched this auction end and it was listed as a Turkish sacrafical knife from memory but whenever I hear that I take it with a grain of salt. I too would say Trousse as there was a Chinese Trousse that I bought from the same seller and as he deals in arms I would hazard a guess that there was a collection of unusual trousse that he purchased and has sold on.

A lovely piece and unique too I would say, I too saved the images for future reference.

Nice work

Gav

PS I am looking for a loving home where mum would spend all her money on edged weapons for me too....

Tim Simmons · 3rd November 2008, 02:49 PM

This looks like a German 19th century hunting knife made in the Renaissance revival style as already mentioned. In this picture of an original 15th century piece although a small image you can still see the superior modelling and casting.

Tim Simmons · 3rd November 2008, 05:00 PM

Just thought I had better explain myself a little more. Extacts from "High Victorian Design" 1975

CourseEight · 3rd November 2008, 10:43 PM

Thanks once again for your responses! I do still wonder if Norman McCormick's suggestion of a military doctor's field knife has merit over a purely hunting piece, mostly because I don't know how common it would be for the panoply marking especially to be immitated on a civilian piece. Does anyone have any examples of this? Or a hunting trousse that exhibits this degree of curvature?

Tim, thank you very much for your detailed information about the artistic style. I'm curious; if a knife were meant to be a "user," would they attempt to match the specific motif portrayed to its usage, or was it purely aestethic? I ask this because I wonder if I could better pin down what the handle is trying to portray, would this imply anything about the purpose of the knife itself?

3rd November 2008, 11:44 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	What a generous mum What a generous Mum you have there, I watched this auction end and it was listed as a Turkish sacrafical knife from memory but whenever I hear that I take it with a grain of salt. I too would say Trousse as there was a Chinese Trousse that I bought from the same seller and as he deals in arms I would hazard a guess that there was a collection of unusual trousse that he purchased and has sold on. A lovely piece and unique too I would say, I too saved the images for future reference. Nice work Gav PS I am looking for a loving home where mum would spend all her money on edged weapons for me too....

3rd November 2008, 02:49 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,876	This looks like a German 19th century hunting knife made in the Renaissance revival style as already mentioned. In this picture of an original 15th century piece although a small image you can still see the superior modelling and casting. Attached Images

3rd November 2008, 05:00 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,876	Just thought I had better explain myself a little more. Extacts from "High Victorian Design" 1975 Attached Images

3rd November 2008, 10:43 PM	#5
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	Thanks once again for your responses! I do still wonder if Norman McCormick's suggestion of a military doctor's field knife has merit over a purely hunting piece, mostly because I don't know how common it would be for the panoply marking especially to be immitated on a civilian piece. Does anyone have any examples of this? Or a hunting trousse that exhibits this degree of curvature? Tim, thank you very much for your detailed information about the artistic style. I'm curious; if a knife were meant to be a "user," would they attempt to match the specific motif portrayed to its usage, or was it purely aestethic? I ask this because I wonder if I could better pin down what the handle is trying to portray, would this imply anything about the purpose of the knife itself?