Shipping question about arrows from Belgium?

Rick · 31st October 2008, 06:58 PM

I believe FEDEX has no compunctions about sharp and pointys; after all they shipped all our stuff to Macao and back .

One of my containers was opened by US Customs; full of swords, no problem .

Length might be an issue with FEDEX but we're talking what; five feet or so ?

EDIT

Just got off the phone w/FEDEX Intl .
No problems on your package size Bill !
Based on my description of a 10" dia tube 5' long that is .

It can be done .

VANDOO · 31st October 2008, 07:40 PM

MAKE SURE YOU GET FEDEX FEES BEFORE YOU SHIP SOMETHING USING THEM THEIR PRICES ARE VERY HIGH. I HAD A VERY BAD EXPERIENCE. I WON TWO ITEMS FROM AN AUCTION IN AUSTRALIA I GOT THEM AT A GOOD PRICE AND CONTACTED THE AUCTION COMPANY THEY SAID THEY DID NOT MAKE SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS SO I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN AND SHOULD HAVE READ ALL 200 PAGES OF THEIR SMALL PRINT LEGALEIZE.
I ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS THEY SAID THEY WOULD PACK MY ITEMS FOR $36.00 PER BOX AND I COULD GET A FEDEX ACCOUNT AND THEY WOULD PICK IT UP FROM THEIR AUCTION HOUSE. I ASKED THEM TO PUT BOTH ITEMS IN ONE BOX THEY DID NOT AND CHARGED ME $72.00 . FEDEX SIGNED ME UP WITH AN ACCOUNT # AND SENT ME A LOT OF SHIPPING FORMS ECT AND GOT THE INFO AND WENT AND PICKED UP THE 2 PACKAGES AND DELIVERED THEM. I COULD FIND NO SHIPPING CHARGES ON MY INVOICE BUT AS THEY HAD MY CREDIT CARD INFO TO OPEN THE ACCOUNT IT SHOWED UP ON MY NEXT STATEMENT. IT WAS CLOSE TO $400.00 AND WHEN YOU ADDED THE $72.00 I PAYED WAY TOO MUCH FOR MY ITEMS. I HAD CONSIDERED THEM A BARGAIN EVEN WITH THE 20% BUYERS FEE FROM THE AUCTION HOUSE.
I DON'T LIKE TO READ AND DON'T UNDERSTAND LEAGLIZE SO READING 200 PAGES OF IT AND PROBABLY STILL GETTING HAD I NOW AVOID ONLINE AUCTIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF A DEAL SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS.
NOT ALL AUCTIONS ARE LIKE THAT BUT IF ONE FOR INSTANCE STARTS CHARGEING A BUYERS FEE OR RAISES THEIRS FROM 20% T0 25% IT DOSEN'T TAKE LONG FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW SUIT. I HAVE ALSO SEEN OTHER AUCTIONS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS IN SMALL PRINT SO BEWARE.
THERE IS NOT MUCH PLEASURE IN HANDELING AN ITEM IN YOUR COLLECTION IF YOU HAVE BEEN HAD

IT JUST REMINDS YOU OF THE DIRTY DEALINGS.

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW AND EVERYONE DOES IT DOSEN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

rand · 4th November 2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

MAKE SURE YOU GET FEDEX FEES BEFORE YOU SHIP SOMETHING USING THEM THEIR PRICES ARE VERY HIGH. I HAD A VERY BAD EXPERIENCE. I WON TWO ITEMS FROM AN AUCTION IN AUSTRALIA I GOT THEM AT A GOOD PRICE AND CONTACTED THE AUCTION COMPANY THEY SAID THEY DID NOT MAKE SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS SO I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN AND SHOULD HAVE READ ALL 200 PAGES OF THEIR SMALL PRINT LEGALEIZE.
I ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS THEY SAID THEY WOULD PACK MY ITEMS FOR $36.00 PER BOX AND I COULD GET A FEDEX ACCOUNT AND THEY WOULD PICK IT UP FROM THEIR AUCTION HOUSE. I ASKED THEM TO PUT BOTH ITEMS IN ONE BOX THEY DID NOT AND CHARGED ME $72.00 . FEDEX SIGNED ME UP WITH AN ACCOUNT # AND SENT ME A LOT OF SHIPPING FORMS ECT AND GOT THE INFO AND WENT AND PICKED UP THE 2 PACKAGES AND DELIVERED THEM. I COULD FIND NO SHIPPING CHARGES ON MY INVOICE BUT AS THEY HAD MY CREDIT CARD INFO TO OPEN THE ACCOUNT IT SHOWED UP ON MY NEXT STATEMENT. IT WAS CLOSE TO $400.00 AND WHEN YOU ADDED THE $72.00 I PAYED WAY TOO MUCH FOR MY ITEMS. I HAD CONSIDERED THEM A BARGAIN EVEN WITH THE 20% BUYERS FEE FROM THE AUCTION HOUSE.
I DON'T LIKE TO READ AND DON'T UNDERSTAND LEAGLIZE SO READING 200 PAGES OF IT AND PROBABLY STILL GETTING HAD I NOW AVOID ONLINE AUCTIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF A DEAL SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS.
NOT ALL AUCTIONS ARE LIKE THAT BUT IF ONE FOR INSTANCE STARTS CHARGEING A BUYERS FEE OR RAISES THEIRS FROM 20% T0 25% IT DOSEN'T TAKE LONG FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW SUIT. I HAVE ALSO SEEN OTHER AUCTIONS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS IN SMALL PRINT SO BEWARE.
THERE IS NOT MUCH PLEASURE IN HANDELING AN ITEM IN YOUR COLLECTION IF YOU HAVE BEEN HAD

IT JUST REMINDS YOU OF THE DIRTY DEALINGS.

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW AND EVERYONE DOES IT DOSEN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

Hey Vandoo,

The fees do not sound too bad to me. $36 packing for each piece seems reasonable, its just a shame they put it in two parcels. They may pack seperately to protect themselves if the parcel is lost in shipping.

Have been hosed far worse by Herman Historica, its really important to find out in advance what handling, packing and shipping fees are when dealing with an auction house. Personally I like it when they use something like a UPS store and not have an auction handling fee for packing.

Always expect it to cost more than you think.... sort of like auction house estimate for auction value, its almost always go's for more.

rand

KuKulzA28 · 15th November 2008, 11:12 PM

this may not be helpful at all but I just noticed this on eBay [active auction link deleted] he's from Maine, USA.

Rick · 15th November 2008, 11:55 PM

I'm sorry, but you failed to read the rules about posting active auctions .

There is an automatic 10 day suspension for this violation .
See you in 10 days .

Bill M · 16th November 2008, 12:23 AM

Tried to warn him.

Gavin Nugent · 16th November 2008, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I believe FEDEX has no compunctions about sharp and pointys; after all they shipped all our stuff to Macao and back .

One of my containers was opened by US Customs; full of swords, no problem .

Length might be an issue with FEDEX but we're talking what; five feet or so ?

EDIT

Just got off the phone w/FEDEX Intl .
No problems on your package size Bill !
Based on my description of a 10" dia tube 5' long that is .

It can be done .

No length issues with Fedex for reference sake. The Chinese polearm I have posted is currently in transit with fedex and it is 8'4''long. Just keep in mind that they will calculate weight at it's cubed weight if it is heavier.

Gav

Bill M · 16th November 2008, 12:56 AM

I am not sure if the problem lay with Fedex, UPS, and DHL in Belgium, but when I called these three companies, they universally said, "We don't ship weapons internationally!"

Gav, perhaps they don't really know what a Chinese Pole Arm is? In the southern USA a skunk is called a "pole-cat."

But if you had labeled it a "spear," or "Chinese Weapon," you might have had a problem.

So I have an antique farming tool -- that looks remarkably like a panabas, and an antique fishing rod -- that looks remarkably like a bow, on the way to me.

Here INSIDE the USA it is quite different!

I just got an 1887 Winchester Lever Action 10 guage shotgun delivered by UPS USA. They did have to send the ammunition in a separate box. All legal and happy!

FYI most guns made before 1900 are considered "antiques" and you don't need special licensing to ship and receive.

A. G. Maisey · 16th November 2008, 03:24 AM

On the subject of names used in shipping weaponry.

Over a thirty year period, shipping out of Australia to various overseas destinations, I have found that it is not a real good idea to label knives as knives, daggers as daggers, or swords as swords.

It is more likely to result in a no problems transit to destination if that 18th century Indian dagger is named on the customs declaration as :- one pesh kabz, a south Asian cultural artifact made of metal and stone and dating from the 18th century.

An English bowie knife becomes :- a 19th century cutting tool of English origin

-----and so on.

The description must be absolutely correct, but should not use emotive words such as "knife", "sword", "dagger".

Regretably knives, swords and daggers also seem to suffer from pilferage in some countries, so using a term that does not tell a prospective thief exactly what is in the package is added protection, especially for countries that do not provide a postal insurance cover.

Gavin Nugent · 16th November 2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

I am not sure if the problem lay with Fedex, UPS, and DHL in Belgium, but when I called these three companies, they universally said, "We don't ship weapons internationally!"

Gav, perhaps they don't really know what a Chinese Pole Arm is? In the southern USA a skunk is called a "pole-cat."

But if you had labeled it a "spear," or "Chinese Weapon," you might have had a problem.

So I have an antique farming tool -- that looks remarkably like a panabas, and an antique fishing rod -- that looks remarkably like a bow, on the way to me.

Here INSIDE the USA it is quite different!

I just got an 1887 Winchester Lever Action 10 guage shotgun delivered by UPS USA. They did have to send the ammunition in a separate box. All legal and happy!

FYI most guns made before 1900 are considered "antiques" and you don't need special licensing to ship and receive.

G'day Bill,

I hope it does sort itself out, it was noted on my customs and fedex paperwork as a Chinese sword. I find it unusual that you received this response, I have bought from some very large arms specialist auction houses in the USA and they all shipped Fedex???

Gav

31st October 2008, 06:58 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I believe FEDEX has no compunctions about sharp and pointys; after all they shipped all our stuff to Macao and back . One of my containers was opened by US Customs; full of swords, no problem . Length might be an issue with FEDEX but we're talking what; five feet or so ? EDIT Just got off the phone w/FEDEX Intl . No problems on your package size Bill ! Based on my description of a 10" dia tube 5' long that is . It can be done . Last edited by Rick; 31st October 2008 at 07:12 PM.

15th November 2008, 11:12 PM	#4
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	this may not be helpful at all but I just noticed this on eBay [active auction link deleted] he's from Maine, USA. Last edited by Rick; 15th November 2008 at 11:57 PM. Reason: active auction

16th November 2008, 03:24 AM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,994	On the subject of names used in shipping weaponry. Over a thirty year period, shipping out of Australia to various overseas destinations, I have found that it is not a real good idea to label knives as knives, daggers as daggers, or swords as swords. It is more likely to result in a no problems transit to destination if that 18th century Indian dagger is named on the customs declaration as :- one pesh kabz, a south Asian cultural artifact made of metal and stone and dating from the 18th century. An English bowie knife becomes :- a 19th century cutting tool of English origin -----and so on. The description must be absolutely correct, but should not use emotive words such as "knife", "sword", "dagger". Regretably knives, swords and daggers also seem to suffer from pilferage in some countries, so using a term that does not tell a prospective thief exactly what is in the package is added protection, especially for countries that do not provide a postal insurance cover. Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 16th November 2008 at 12:23 PM.

31st October 2008, 07:40 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MAKE SURE YOU GET FEDEX FEES BEFORE YOU SHIP SOMETHING USING THEM THEIR PRICES ARE VERY HIGH. I HAD A VERY BAD EXPERIENCE. I WON TWO ITEMS FROM AN AUCTION IN AUSTRALIA I GOT THEM AT A GOOD PRICE AND CONTACTED THE AUCTION COMPANY THEY SAID THEY DID NOT MAKE SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS SO I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN AND SHOULD HAVE READ ALL 200 PAGES OF THEIR SMALL PRINT LEGALEIZE. I ASKED FOR SUGGESTIONS THEY SAID THEY WOULD PACK MY ITEMS FOR $36.00 PER BOX AND I COULD GET A FEDEX ACCOUNT AND THEY WOULD PICK IT UP FROM THEIR AUCTION HOUSE. I ASKED THEM TO PUT BOTH ITEMS IN ONE BOX THEY DID NOT AND CHARGED ME $72.00 . FEDEX SIGNED ME UP WITH AN ACCOUNT # AND SENT ME A LOT OF SHIPPING FORMS ECT AND GOT THE INFO AND WENT AND PICKED UP THE 2 PACKAGES AND DELIVERED THEM. I COULD FIND NO SHIPPING CHARGES ON MY INVOICE BUT AS THEY HAD MY CREDIT CARD INFO TO OPEN THE ACCOUNT IT SHOWED UP ON MY NEXT STATEMENT. IT WAS CLOSE TO $400.00 AND WHEN YOU ADDED THE $72.00 I PAYED WAY TOO MUCH FOR MY ITEMS. I HAD CONSIDERED THEM A BARGAIN EVEN WITH THE 20% BUYERS FEE FROM THE AUCTION HOUSE. I DON'T LIKE TO READ AND DON'T UNDERSTAND LEAGLIZE SO READING 200 PAGES OF IT AND PROBABLY STILL GETTING HAD I NOW AVOID ONLINE AUCTIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF A DEAL SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS. NOT ALL AUCTIONS ARE LIKE THAT BUT IF ONE FOR INSTANCE STARTS CHARGEING A BUYERS FEE OR RAISES THEIRS FROM 20% T0 25% IT DOSEN'T TAKE LONG FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW SUIT. I HAVE ALSO SEEN OTHER AUCTIONS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPPING ARANGEMENTS IN SMALL PRINT SO BEWARE. THERE IS NOT MUCH PLEASURE IN HANDELING AN ITEM IN YOUR COLLECTION IF YOU HAVE BEEN HAD IT JUST REMINDS YOU OF THE DIRTY DEALINGS. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW AND EVERYONE DOES IT DOSEN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

15th November 2008, 11:55 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'm sorry, but you failed to read the rules about posting active auctions . There is an automatic 10 day suspension for this violation . See you in 10 days .

16th November 2008, 12:23 AM	#6
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Tried to warn him.

16th November 2008, 12:56 AM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	I am not sure if the problem lay with Fedex, UPS, and DHL in Belgium, but when I called these three companies, they universally said, "We don't ship weapons internationally!" Gav, perhaps they don't really know what a Chinese Pole Arm is? In the southern USA a skunk is called a "pole-cat." But if you had labeled it a "spear," or "Chinese Weapon," you might have had a problem. So I have an antique farming tool -- that looks remarkably like a panabas, and an antique fishing rod -- that looks remarkably like a bow, on the way to me. Here INSIDE the USA it is quite different! I just got an 1887 Winchester Lever Action 10 guage shotgun delivered by UPS USA. They did have to send the ammunition in a separate box. All legal and happy! FYI most guns made before 1900 are considered "antiques" and you don't need special licensing to ship and receive.