BEATIFUL KAMPILAN HILT

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 01:30 AM

Tom,I'm pretty sure the kamp is Bagobo.You are right on the money with the Mandayan influence between the two styles.It always interests me how neighboring tribes influence eachother,but still retain their their own uniqueness!!!Here are a few pics of a Mandayan bolo in my posession for many years.
BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life) I can't remember the exact name for this particular bolo

Andrew · 11th April 2005, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nosmo king

BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life)

Your new user name had me rolling!

Welcome back.

nosmo king · 11th April 2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Your new user name had me rolling!

Welcome back.

Thanks Andrew,I wanted a name I could see posted in restaurants and all public places!!!

ibeam · 11th April 2005, 10:37 PM

Hello Nismo King,
Thank you for posting pictures of your very nice sword collection. Glad to know you still have that Mandaya bolo.

Federico · 12th April 2005, 12:42 AM

Wow...beautiful Kampilan Carlos. Are my eyes seeing right, and the hilt is made of banati? Ive only seen a couple banati hilted kampilan. Very beautiful. The mansala is interesting as well, nice pattern.

Rick, as far as Ive read, and iffen the similarity between the Moro practice of Anting-Anting and Xtian anting-anitng are truly similar, what constitutes an anting-anting can vary wildly. From heavily inscribed cloth, to simple plain cloth that has been prayed over, to rocks, shells, shards of wood, etc... So, even the plain un-inscribe red mansalas could be antin-anting if there was some significance to the cloth's origin.

I suppose, for all the theorizing, we should also not underestimate the power of it looks nice why not add it.

Rick · 12th April 2005, 01:31 AM

True Federico , true .

Does this negate the possibility that these swords were bound to the user's hand by these strips sometimes . ?

Ian · 12th April 2005, 02:01 AM

Nosmo:

The Bagobo and Mandaya bolos are wonderful examples of the respective traditional forms. Two of the best I have seen. Congrats.

Ian.

nosmo king · 12th April 2005, 09:30 PM

Thanks Ian,The Bagobo sword was a "sleeper" on ebay !!! It was listed in a really weird category and was labeled a "mystery sword".The photo was terrible.You couldn't even tell it was beadwork!! I took a chance and if I remember correctly,I was the only bidder.Sometimes you have to gamble a little.The Mandaya bolo came from a little antique shop in upstate NY.I bought it for less than a steak dinner would cost!!! You never know where you will find your next treasure!! Bye,Nosmo

Federico · 12th April 2005, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

True Federico , true .

Does this negate the possibility that these swords were bound to the user's hand by these strips sometimes . ?

No idea

11th April 2005, 01:30 AM	#1
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Tom,I'm pretty sure the kamp is Bagobo.You are right on the money with the Mandayan influence between the two styles.It always interests me how neighboring tribes influence eachother,but still retain their their own uniqueness!!!Here are a few pics of a Mandayan bolo in my posession for many years. BTW,ibeam ID this bolo for me a while back(I used to be "slowcountry" in my former life) I can't remember the exact name for this particular bolo Attached Images

11th April 2005, 10:37 PM	#4
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Hello Nismo King, Thank you for posting pictures of your very nice sword collection. Glad to know you still have that Mandaya bolo.

12th April 2005, 12:42 AM	#5
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Wow...beautiful Kampilan Carlos. Are my eyes seeing right, and the hilt is made of banati? Ive only seen a couple banati hilted kampilan. Very beautiful. The mansala is interesting as well, nice pattern. Rick, as far as Ive read, and iffen the similarity between the Moro practice of Anting-Anting and Xtian anting-anitng are truly similar, what constitutes an anting-anting can vary wildly. From heavily inscribed cloth, to simple plain cloth that has been prayed over, to rocks, shells, shards of wood, etc... So, even the plain un-inscribe red mansalas could be antin-anting if there was some significance to the cloth's origin. I suppose, for all the theorizing, we should also not underestimate the power of it looks nice why not add it.

12th April 2005, 01:31 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	True Federico , true . Does this negate the possibility that these swords were bound to the user's hand by these strips sometimes . ?

12th April 2005, 02:01 AM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,362	Nosmo: The Bagobo and Mandaya bolos are wonderful examples of the respective traditional forms. Two of the best I have seen. Congrats. Ian.

12th April 2005, 09:30 PM	#8
nosmo king Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15	Thanks Ian,The Bagobo sword was a "sleeper" on ebay !!! It was listed in a really weird category and was labeled a "mystery sword".The photo was terrible.You couldn't even tell it was beadwork!! I took a chance and if I remember correctly,I was the only bidder.Sometimes you have to gamble a little.The Mandaya bolo came from a little antique shop in upstate NY.I bought it for less than a steak dinner would cost!!! You never know where you will find your next treasure!! Bye,Nosmo