My first kris :)

migueldiaz · 27th October 2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Krieger probably did not count correctly or did not take into account blade erosion that would make the kris appear to have one less wave.

As far as i know kris and keris always have an odd wave count.

Hi David,

Thanks for the comment.

In the attached pic of one of Krieger's plates, krisses nos. 1 & 3 seem to have even-numbered wave counts. Or would there be another way of counting the waves?

Thanks again.

Rick · 27th October 2008, 08:04 PM

#1. is 5 waves .

#3. is 13 waves .

Count from the greneng/wide side of the blade .

David · 27th October 2008, 08:09 PM

I concur, 5 on #1, 13 on #3.

David · 27th October 2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Count from the greneng/wide side of the blade .

Actually Rick, don't you mean to say that you should start your count from the other side, from the first curve just above the "elephant trunk"?

migueldiaz · 28th October 2008, 04:52 AM

Now I get it.

Thanks Rick and David!

Rick · 28th October 2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Actually Rick, don't you mean to say that you should start your count from the other side, from the first curve just above the "elephant trunk"?

It's funny how we can both come up with the same # using different ways to count .

I tend to do things backwards ....

migueldiaz · 29th October 2008, 08:40 AM

[... momentarily pondering whether there is more to life than counting the number of waves of certain edged weapons ...]

Going back to Krieger's manner of counting the waves, apparently he counts the pairs of waves, and not the individual waves.

Thus in the attached photo in his book, in the text he described certain blades as follows:

[1] Blade No. 1: two waves;
[2] Blade No. 5: five waves; and
[3] Blade No. 7: eleven waves.

I'm not saying Krieger's manner of counting should be it. I'm just pointing out the way he did it

Rick · 29th October 2008, 02:57 PM

At any rate (unless modified after the fact) both the kris and the keris traditionally have odd numbers of curves .
I think we can take that as a given .

It's a Guy thing ........

Blade # 1 = 5 waves
Blade #5 = 9 waves ...

Blade #7 - the picture is way poor for counting; there are more waves than has been stated; I count 21 .

29th October 2008, 02:57 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,348	At any rate (unless modified after the fact) both the kris and the keris traditionally have odd numbers of curves . I think we can take that as a given . It's a Guy thing ........ Blade # 1 = 5 waves Blade #5 = 9 waves ... Blade #7 - the picture is way poor for counting; there are more waves than has been stated; I count 21 . Last edited by Rick; 29th October 2008 at 03:08 PM.

27th October 2008, 08:04 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,348	#1. is 5 waves . #3. is 13 waves . Count from the greneng/wide side of the blade .

27th October 2008, 08:09 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,230	I concur, 5 on #1, 13 on #3.

28th October 2008, 04:52 AM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Now I get it. Thanks Rick and David!

29th October 2008, 08:40 AM	#7
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	[... momentarily pondering whether there is more to life than counting the number of waves of certain edged weapons ...] Going back to Krieger's manner of counting the waves, apparently he counts the pairs of waves, and not the individual waves. Thus in the attached photo in his book, in the text he described certain blades as follows: [1] Blade No. 1: two waves; [2] Blade No. 5: five waves; and [3] Blade No. 7: eleven waves. I'm not saying Krieger's manner of counting should be it. I'm just pointing out the way he did it Attached Images