Sundang, moro kris or whatelse?

Bill · 30th September 2008, 07:33 PM

Flavio, It' different but the pics don't tell the whole story, at least for me.
First you have to figure what was original to the sword & I would guess nothing.
The scabbard is top grade but I doubt it's very close to be as old as the sword. It looks to me as Bugis/Malay.
I'm not sure about the blade itself. Could it be that it was over-cleaned with some sort of acid or chemicals?
The stirrup & metal rings look fairly new. If someone carried that sword everyday they would be dented/scraped.
Surprised there is not more opinions on the hilt pommel. I don't think it's horn, but I don't know what type of Ivory. Some sort of tooth? It looks like it broke, was repaired & filled; then stained to make the repairs less noticed.

Flavio · 30th September 2008, 08:33 PM

Thank you Bill! For sure the pommel was restored, there is some kind of putty... What I'd like to know is if also the rest of the handle is restored/replaced since a handle of horn is very strange for an "original" moro, but if it was from another place than could be original.... Anyway the collar around the pommel shows some losses, I will post some pics.

Thanks
FLavio

spiral · 1st October 2008, 12:27 AM

I know nothing about these blades or even the scabbard timber origins but looking at the Schreger angles the pommel is 100% Elephant ivory definatly not mamooth or any form of sea tooth..

Spiral

30th September 2008, 07:33 PM	#1
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Flavio, It' different but the pics don't tell the whole story, at least for me. First you have to figure what was original to the sword & I would guess nothing. The scabbard is top grade but I doubt it's very close to be as old as the sword. It looks to me as Bugis/Malay. I'm not sure about the blade itself. Could it be that it was over-cleaned with some sort of acid or chemicals? The stirrup & metal rings look fairly new. If someone carried that sword everyday they would be dented/scraped. Surprised there is not more opinions on the hilt pommel. I don't think it's horn, but I don't know what type of Ivory. Some sort of tooth? It looks like it broke, was repaired & filled; then stained to make the repairs less noticed.

30th September 2008, 08:33 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Bill! For sure the pommel was restored, there is some kind of putty... What I'd like to know is if also the rest of the handle is restored/replaced since a handle of horn is very strange for an "original" moro, but if it was from another place than could be original.... Anyway the collar around the pommel shows some losses, I will post some pics. Thanks FLavio

1st October 2008, 12:27 AM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I know nothing about these blades or even the scabbard timber origins but looking at the Schreger angles the pommel is 100% Elephant ivory definatly not mamooth or any form of sea tooth.. Spiral