Dagger I.D. Please.

Battara · 11th September 2008, 07:02 PM

I was thinking the inlay was brass....

Tim Simmons · 11th September 2008, 07:11 PM

I think you are right brass one one side and copper on the other. I wonder if the handle is possibly bone? I have an African Islamised axe with brass inlay on one side and copper on the other. Not wanting to pour cold water but I do not think this is in the gold decoration standard of work.

Norman McCormick · 11th September 2008, 07:34 PM

Battara, Tim,
The inlay, whatever it is, is the same on both sides, slightly different colour temperature on the photos. I am trying to find a local jeweller who can test it for me, will post result when I can.
My Regards,
Norman.

kai · 14th September 2008, 02:25 AM

Hello Norman,

Quote:

I am trying to find a local jeweller who can test it for me

Please do! Also the

BTW, even silver (coin grade alloy) tarnished with acids can looks almsot like gold...

Regards,
Kai

Henk · 14th September 2008, 12:47 PM

Kai,

I don't have pictures nor the permission to publish from such rencong in Dutch collection where I saw them with my own eyes.

But I found on the forum this rencong without "ears" that belonged to Dayak an is now the property of one of our respected members.
I took the liberty to use the picture from the swap forum.

Norman McCormick · 14th September 2008, 08:43 PM

Hello Kai,
I see what you mean about the file type marks on the blade, I don't know if it's too clear in the photographs but the edge has been honed with a stone, or something similar, as the facet that makes up the sharp edge is smoother than the rest of the blade. This indication of a different wear pattern led me to the conclusion that the blade had been sharpened a number of times. I hope this makes it clearer as to how I came to my conclusion. If I can be of any further assistance please ask.
My Regards,
Norman.
P.S. Can anybody post an example photo of the 'ears' referred to in previous posts.

Henk · 14th September 2008, 10:22 PM

Norman,

On your request.

kai · 15th September 2008, 08:48 PM

Hello Norman,

Quote:

I see what you mean about the file type marks on the blade, I don't know if it's too clear in the photographs but the edge has been honed with a stone, or something similar, as the facet that makes up the sharp edge is smoother than the rest of the blade. This indication of a different wear pattern led me to the conclusion that the blade had been sharpened a number of times.

To me, it seems that someone - possibly the bladesmith - took time to put a decent edge on a roughly finished blade; first doing the fullers and other blade details, followed by setting the edge, and finishing with the final polish is the standard procedure, I guess.

Regards,
Kai

14th September 2008, 12:47 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Kai, I don't have pictures nor the permission to publish from such rencong in Dutch collection where I saw them with my own eyes. But I found on the forum this rencong without "ears" that belonged to Dayak an is now the property of one of our respected members. I took the liberty to use the picture from the swap forum. Attached Images

14th September 2008, 10:22 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Norman, On your request. Attached Images

11th September 2008, 07:02 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	I was thinking the inlay was brass....

11th September 2008, 07:11 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,917	I think you are right brass one one side and copper on the other. I wonder if the handle is possibly bone? I have an African Islamised axe with brass inlay on one side and copper on the other. Not wanting to pour cold water but I do not think this is in the gold decoration standard of work.

11th September 2008, 07:34 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,645	Battara, Tim, The inlay, whatever it is, is the same on both sides, slightly different colour temperature on the photos. I am trying to find a local jeweller who can test it for me, will post result when I can. My Regards, Norman.

14th September 2008, 08:43 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,645	Hello Kai, I see what you mean about the file type marks on the blade, I don't know if it's too clear in the photographs but the edge has been honed with a stone, or something similar, as the facet that makes up the sharp edge is smoother than the rest of the blade. This indication of a different wear pattern led me to the conclusion that the blade had been sharpened a number of times. I hope this makes it clearer as to how I came to my conclusion. If I can be of any further assistance please ask. My Regards, Norman. P.S. Can anybody post an example photo of the 'ears' referred to in previous posts.