My first Kampilan!!!

Flavio · 5th September 2008, 11:45 AM

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Rick · 5th September 2008, 03:12 PM

A nice example of a hairy kampilan .
Congratulations Flavio .

Tim Simmons · 5th September 2008, 04:06 PM

I want one

Flavio · 5th September 2008, 07:46 PM

Thank you Rick and Tim!

Any idea on the age? because even if the patina makes me think of at least a piece of early XX century I have seen before this white decoration among carvings but on scabbards of kris that are post WWII (ganga not dived), so your help is welcome

Thank you

Rick · 5th September 2008, 10:01 PM

It seems we share the same style of crossguard .

Cecil Q. guestimated my example to be mid 19thC.

How worn is the hilt ?

Flavio · 5th September 2008, 10:09 PM

Hi Rick,

the hilt is well worn and used and yes the crossguards are the same, but I think that for the rest your kamp shows an older type of hilt shape

but I'm not an expert at all so I will be happy if also mine would be so old

kai · 5th September 2008, 11:06 PM

Hello Rick,

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It seems we share the same style of crossguard .

Actually, only the iron staple guards are close (4 vs 5 loops); the wooden cross guard is different!

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How worn is the hilt ?

I don't see too much wear on Flavio's pommel; a bit on the crossguard which could be older.

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 6th September 2008, 04:13 AM

Congratulations! Very nice puppy. Especially when the hair is replaced.

As far as coins for the eyes are concerned, you could try 1880's Spanish silver coins (if you can find any).

kai · 5th September 2008, 10:59 PM

Hello Flavio,

Nice laminated blade! Could you please post a pic of the blade tip?

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Any idea on the age? because even if the patina makes me think of at least a piece of early XX century I have seen before this white decoration among carvings but on scabbards of kris that are post WWII (ganga not dived)

I'd have no qualms to assign it to the turn of the century at least, likely 2nd half of 19th century. The carving work is good but not top notch - collected during the Span.-Am. war and following colonial battles may be a good guess.

Lime paste seems to be an old way to enhance the carving work - I'll try to post pics of an example which I'd place mid-19th c. at least. (It seems plausible to assume that this might have been the starting point for developing inlay of bone/ivory/MOP later on.)

The slender end of the pommel seems to have been broken severa times with the tip missing for already a long time. Coins seem to have been used indiscriminately - you could utilize late 19th c. US coins for restoration.

BTW, the first kris with non-separate gangya seem to show up in late 19th c. and to become dominant about 1930.

Regards,
Kai

5th September 2008, 11:45 AM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	more Attached Images

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	It seems we share the same style of crossguard . Cecil Q. guestimated my example to be mid 19thC. How worn is the hilt ? Attached Images

5th September 2008, 03:12 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	A nice example of a hairy kampilan . Congratulations Flavio .

5th September 2008, 04:06 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	I want one

5th September 2008, 07:46 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Rick and Tim! Any idea on the age? because even if the patina makes me think of at least a piece of early XX century I have seen before this white decoration among carvings but on scabbards of kris that are post WWII (ganga not dived), so your help is welcome Thank you

5th September 2008, 10:09 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Rick, the hilt is well worn and used and yes the crossguards are the same, but I think that for the rest your kamp shows an older type of hilt shape but I'm not an expert at all so I will be happy if also mine would be so old

6th September 2008, 04:13 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Congratulations! Very nice puppy. Especially when the hair is replaced. As far as coins for the eyes are concerned, you could try 1880's Spanish silver coins (if you can find any).