Unusual South Indian Sword

dralin23 · 29th August 2008, 04:01 PM

hi wepnz
at thirst, hello in this forum. until some years i thought also that al indian weapons are curved sabres like tulwars ore maybe shamshir swords. i thought in india was also cheap quality weapons produced and also used. at one day i saw at an gun show the first khanda sword and this was the beginning from my khanda collection.( i bought not these khanda, i found an very better one).
your question now. yes these sword from ashoka is an realy good indian sword. it is also an rare sword. these sword was used from the hindus in the vijayangare period( 15-17th. ct) this swords was made for fighting.
if you would like find better informations lock in the great book from elgood " hindu arms and ritual" page 87-93. if these book not in your collection buy it, it is an great investment!!!

Jens Nordlunde · 29th August 2008, 09:41 PM

Wepnz,

You must remember that India is a very big country, with a very different history. To try to get an idea, I would recommend that you buy books on the early history of India, buy you should be aware that most of the books only cover a specific area, like Rajasthan. Happy reading

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Gonzalo G · 2nd September 2008, 12:35 AM

Not an unusual piece, as an indian pattern, neither a very old piece. There are much older pieces, in every configuration you can imagine. India is an amalgamation of peoples, nations and cultures of every sort. To begin with, I recommend you to read "The Indian Sword", by P. S. Rawson. It has many illustrations and explanations.
My best regards

Gonzalo

ashoka · 19th December 2008, 01:26 PM

"Not an unusual piece, as an indian pattern, neither a very old piece. There are much older pieces, in every configuration you can imagine"

By any measure these straight swords are not common or 'usual', and 16th/17th century is generally agreed to be early, if going by R.Elgood's book with the dating. Finding Indian swords older than this is not especially easy, but of course there are older pieces existing. It would be interesting to hear your argument that this is not an early sword Gonzalo, thanks. Rawson's book is generally accepted as being fairly flawed as far as dating/descriptions go, but it does show some interesting museum pieces in the illustrations.

Lew · 19th December 2008, 03:07 PM

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29th August 2008, 09:41 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Wepnz, You must remember that India is a very big country, with a very different history. To try to get an idea, I would recommend that you buy books on the early history of India, buy you should be aware that most of the books only cover a specific area, like Rajasthan. Happy reading.

19th December 2008, 01:26 PM	#4
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	"Not an unusual piece, as an indian pattern, neither a very old piece. There are much older pieces, in every configuration you can imagine" By any measure these straight swords are not common or 'usual', and 16th/17th century is generally agreed to be early, if going by R.Elgood's book with the dating. Finding Indian swords older than this is not especially easy, but of course there are older pieces existing. It would be interesting to hear your argument that this is not an early sword Gonzalo, thanks. Rawson's book is generally accepted as being fairly flawed as far as dating/descriptions go, but it does show some interesting museum pieces in the illustrations. Last edited by ashoka; 19th December 2008 at 01:40 PM.

29th August 2008, 04:01 PM	#1
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	hi wepnz at thirst, hello in this forum. until some years i thought also that al indian weapons are curved sabres like tulwars ore maybe shamshir swords. i thought in india was also cheap quality weapons produced and also used. at one day i saw at an gun show the first khanda sword and this was the beginning from my khanda collection.( i bought not these khanda, i found an very better one). your question now. yes these sword from ashoka is an realy good indian sword. it is also an rare sword. these sword was used from the hindus in the vijayangare period( 15-17th. ct) this swords was made for fighting. if you would like find better informations lock in the great book from elgood " hindu arms and ritual" page 87-93. if these book not in your collection buy it, it is an great investment!!!

2nd September 2008, 12:35 AM	#3
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	Not an unusual piece, as an indian pattern, neither a very old piece. There are much older pieces, in every configuration you can imagine. India is an amalgamation of peoples, nations and cultures of every sort. To begin with, I recommend you to read "The Indian Sword", by P. S. Rawson. It has many illustrations and explanations. My best regards Gonzalo

19th December 2008, 03:07 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Guys It is against forum rules to discuss any items currently up for sale. Lew