First Keris acquired

Rick · 19th August 2008, 03:57 AM

I think this may be the blade Alan is referring to .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan

Battara · 19th August 2008, 04:09 AM

Didn't know there was such a huge difference in arsenics!

A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2008, 04:17 AM

Yes Rick, that's the one.

I didn't realise that arsenic quality made any difference either---until I drove myself half crazy with trying to get decent results from industrial quality.

scratch · 19th August 2008, 11:04 AM

G'day,
A G Maisy,
Thank you for your words

Unfortunately windows of opportunity for this particular staining process are not frequent. I will be patient. I will find staining thread with search again. I have Freys book. I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black? I will check with source, thanks for the alert.
What a lovely blade!
The dapor is meaningful in intent/Looks good. The requirements to forge such art are unknown to me. Thank you for sharing

What is this bade dapor called? Is it chengkrong?
The blade I posted does look nice in a Java handle.
Hello Battara,
Cheers,

Dan

David · 19th August 2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scratch

I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black?

The color produced is dependent upon the types of iron used in the blade. Black is not always the result. Shades of gray are common.

A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2008, 01:55 PM

No Scratch, not cengkrong, pasopati.

Why do you mention Frey's book? Which edition?

scratch · 23rd August 2008, 02:55 PM

Pasopati,a lovely shape, Are modern made keris of this type availiable to collectors?
I am having trouble finding info on cengkrong, direction please?
A G maisey, "The Kris, Edward Frey, second edition" mentions a warangan method, is what I should have wrote. Does Freys method produce reliable results?
Is this an acceptable change? I hope to succeed in staining the blade with time.

Cheers,

Dan

23rd August 2008, 02:55 PM	#7
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Pasopati,a lovely shape, Are modern made keris of this type availiable to collectors? I am having trouble finding info on cengkrong, direction please? A G maisey, "The Kris, Edward Frey, second edition" mentions a warangan method, is what I should have wrote. Does Freys method produce reliable results? Is this an acceptable change? I hope to succeed in staining the blade with time. Cheers, Dan Attached Images

19th August 2008, 03:57 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I think this may be the blade Alan is referring to . http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan

19th August 2008, 04:09 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Didn't know there was such a huge difference in arsenics!

19th August 2008, 04:17 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	Yes Rick, that's the one. I didn't realise that arsenic quality made any difference either---until I drove myself half crazy with trying to get decent results from industrial quality.

19th August 2008, 11:04 AM	#4
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	G'day, A G Maisy, Thank you for your words Unfortunately windows of opportunity for this particular staining process are not frequent. I will be patient. I will find staining thread with search again. I have Freys book. I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black? I will check with source, thanks for the alert. What a lovely blade! The dapor is meaningful in intent/Looks good. The requirements to forge such art are unknown to me. Thank you for sharing What is this bade dapor called? Is it chengkrong? The blade I posted does look nice in a Java handle. Hello Battara, Cheers, Dan

19th August 2008, 01:55 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,084	No Scratch, not cengkrong, pasopati. Why do you mention Frey's book? Which edition?