Need help with a kris

Bill · 11th August 2008, 09:30 PM

Very nice. Is the blade 23"? I think it is the same source for the 18C passed down for sometime. If the blade is 23", it would be a surprise but I guess it would be the preference of the person that ordered it. The fitting look very old & I'd be surprised if they were original. Try probing around the tang & see if it's oval or appears conventional.
All the file work looks to be from a oldie & appears to be in the transition from a stabbing weapon to a slashing one, perhaps even a little after the transition. If it has a rectangular tang & a 23" blade, I'd guess it's post transition but likely very old.

Flavio · 11th August 2008, 09:48 PM

Steve,

I think that this is the real deal.... oh, oh, no no it's recent '70, please send to me this horror......

Congratulations!!!

Ferguson · 11th August 2008, 09:55 PM

The overall length is 23". Not sure about the tang. I may be able to see it through the crack in the wood. The pommel is a different wood, pinned on to the wood of the handle.

Thanks for all of your replies so far!

Steve

Lew · 11th August 2008, 10:49 PM

Steve

Thank G-d it's not another one of those gunongs!

I still think the the blade is mid 1800s with a late 1800s hilt. As far as the ganja work is concerned not every panday was a Michael Angelo you know

Now get to work and restore that hilt

!

Congrats

Lew

kino · 11th August 2008, 11:35 PM

EBAY?? How could I have missed it??
Anyways...congrats on a nice find. What are you going to wrap the hilt with?

Battara · 12th August 2008, 02:11 AM

Yeah, I too think this is the real deal. Not unknown that the pommel is pinned to the hilt - I have seen this before and in fact have the same treatment on my older one (very similar) - quality burled wood is difficult to carve and hard to come by in large sizes. A smaller example is easier to find and less costly.

Also, the blade carving does not bother me. I'll bet that a good etch might reveal a twist core in the middle.

Ferguson · 12th August 2008, 10:48 AM

Thank you gentlemen for all of your replies. This kris is so different from everything I've seen so far. I really wasn't sure what I had.

I'll probably wrap the hilt in some coconut fiber twine that was given to me by a kind forum member. Then I'll coat it with some black resin.

Here's the ebay auction that it came from. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=016

Steve

11th August 2008, 09:30 PM	#1
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Very nice. Is the blade 23"? I think it is the same source for the 18C passed down for sometime. If the blade is 23", it would be a surprise but I guess it would be the preference of the person that ordered it. The fitting look very old & I'd be surprised if they were original. Try probing around the tang & see if it's oval or appears conventional. All the file work looks to be from a oldie & appears to be in the transition from a stabbing weapon to a slashing one, perhaps even a little after the transition. If it has a rectangular tang & a 23" blade, I'd guess it's post transition but likely very old.

11th August 2008, 09:48 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Steve, I think that this is the real deal.... oh, oh, no no it's recent '70, please send to me this horror...... Congratulations!!!

11th August 2008, 09:55 PM	#3
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	The overall length is 23". Not sure about the tang. I may be able to see it through the crack in the wood. The pommel is a different wood, pinned on to the wood of the handle. Thanks for all of your replies so far! Steve

11th August 2008, 10:49 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Steve Thank G-d it's not another one of those gunongs! I still think the the blade is mid 1800s with a late 1800s hilt. As far as the ganja work is concerned not every panday was a Michael Angelo you know Now get to work and restore that hilt ! Congrats Lew

11th August 2008, 11:35 PM	#5
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	EBAY?? How could I have missed it?? Anyways...congrats on a nice find. What are you going to wrap the hilt with?

12th August 2008, 02:11 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Yeah, I too think this is the real deal. Not unknown that the pommel is pinned to the hilt - I have seen this before and in fact have the same treatment on my older one (very similar) - quality burled wood is difficult to carve and hard to come by in large sizes. A smaller example is easier to find and less costly. Also, the blade carving does not bother me. I'll bet that a good etch might reveal a twist core in the middle.

12th August 2008, 10:48 AM	#7
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Thank you gentlemen for all of your replies. This kris is so different from everything I've seen so far. I really wasn't sure what I had. I'll probably wrap the hilt in some coconut fiber twine that was given to me by a kind forum member. Then I'll coat it with some black resin. Here's the ebay auction that it came from. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=016 Steve