Barung with blotchy pattern welding - Borneo?

Maurice · 30th July 2008, 09:20 AM

Interesting.....I hope maybe Ben and Michael can tell us more about the answers if Borneo or not.

VVV · 30th July 2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Interesting.....I hope maybe Ben and Michael can tell us more about the answers if Borneo or not.

I can't anyway.
I don't understand why "A more knowledgeable member commented that this pattern may suggest an Indonesian origin" on a non-Indonesian weapon?

And I don't understand why everything odd from this region "probably is" Borneo?

I have also seen this pattern before on other barongs.
But so far I haven't read anything about specifically these barongs being either collected, or manufactured, in Borneo/Sabah.

Michael

PS Very nice barong btw!

Battara · 31st July 2008, 03:17 AM

The hilt suggests to me Samal tribe of Moros.

Dajak · 31st July 2008, 04:32 AM

Hi nice Barong but I don t now if this one is from Borneo .

I don t think that the pattern has something to do from place off origine ,

it is more the style off Handle and scabbard . ( I think)

Ben

kai · 25th August 2020, 08:44 AM

Ok, let's try to resurrect this old thread!

The example I posted does seem to be Samal, indeed. (Unfortunately, no scabbard extant.)

From very limited information that has surfaced since I tend to believe that the hint at Borneo might be spurious. Not enough data for any decision though - and there have been Tausug and Samal settlements along the coast of northern Borneo for centuries.

I'd greatly appreciate if forumites were to add more examples to this thread - thanks a lot in advance!

Best wishes,
Kai

Battara · 25th August 2020, 10:17 PM

Here is my Samal fossil ivory barong. I made the scabbard years ago in Samal fashion.

Rick · 26th August 2020, 12:49 AM

Here's one of mine for comparison.

25th August 2020, 10:17 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Here is my Samal fossil ivory barong. I made the scabbard years ago in Samal fashion. Attached Images

26th August 2020, 12:49 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Here's one of mine for comparison. Attached Images

30th July 2008, 09:20 AM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Interesting.....I hope maybe Ben and Michael can tell us more about the answers if Borneo or not.

31st July 2008, 03:17 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	The hilt suggests to me Samal tribe of Moros.

31st July 2008, 04:32 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi nice Barong but I don t now if this one is from Borneo . I don t think that the pattern has something to do from place off origine , it is more the style off Handle and scabbard . ( I think) Ben

25th August 2020, 08:44 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Ok, let's try to resurrect this old thread! The example I posted does seem to be Samal, indeed. (Unfortunately, no scabbard extant.) From very limited information that has surfaced since I tend to believe that the hint at Borneo might be spurious. Not enough data for any decision though - and there have been Tausug and Samal settlements along the coast of northern Borneo for centuries. I'd greatly appreciate if forumites were to add more examples to this thread - thanks a lot in advance! Best wishes, Kai