looking for a moro kris.

Bill M · 24th July 2008, 11:50 PM

Hey Bill,

Are you talking abuot the first one in the second group? The twistore group?

This is an interesting piece. An expert thinks it could be a "transition piece," possibly made in Brunei.

Let me begin another thread with pictures of this Kris.

An excellent suggestion about x-raying the hilt. I also want to x-ray my kris with the VOC blade. Any other suggestions? (You rent the x-ray machine by the hour -- $200 -- as many pictures as you want).

I should add in the Maranao kris with the tang repair also. He can x-ray steel or iron better than copper/bronze.

I should take several pieces. Any other suggestions?

chevalier · 25th July 2008, 01:04 AM

most of those would work for me

and yea, the one i posted would probably be a pretty pricey piece.

i just like the thick, wide blades and straight or semiwavy patterns, and no, the cockatoo pommel isnt a requirement for me.

this may peeve some people, but i much perfer the shape and size of the moro weapon over the indonesian/malaysian variants.

Bill · 25th July 2008, 01:11 AM

Bill, When you get a chance to take some more pics & open the new thread it would be appreciated. I would certainly think it is a early kris from what I can see. Doubt you could do much slashing without breaking the blade/tang but could stab quite well. I see three 18C's in your group, be nice to see all the 18C's you have & try to see if others will post theirs. I've got 2 but got to get the camera charged up & have a Mac & have not tried loading pictures on it yet.
Once you have handled these 18C's it is easy to know the difference between these & the normal kris. The oldest one has a small round tang & the other has a oval tang that is much bigger. While the first would break in slashing mode, the second could do the task but still has a tapered tip.
If you decide to have them x-rayed, i would do all the 18C's.

Newsteel · 25th July 2008, 01:22 AM

Yup me too

. I've been collecting keris and yet to own some good Philippines kris.

Bill Marsh, I must admit I'm impressed with your collections. especially that cute one Luk 3. Lovely collections.

asomotif · 25th July 2008, 01:44 AM

Quote:

i much perfer the shape and size of the moro weapon

It isn't all size that matters

Check out Bill Marsh' thread about a Moro / Sumatra / VOC combination keris.

Maurice · 25th July 2008, 08:19 AM

Hello Bill,

I knew you had a big collection with great pieces, but your collection seems to be far more interesting as I even thought it was.
Thanks for posting these wonderful pieces.

I hope I can add a moro kris piece at my collection this year.
And if it is half of the quality as the pieces you have, I would be satisfied!

Regards,
Maurice

Rick · 25th July 2008, 06:34 PM

Let us not forget the merits of the simple warrior's kris .

chevalier · 25th July 2008, 10:22 PM

in bill's post i love the one fourth from the right in the fourth picture down.

25th July 2008, 06:34 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Glitter Is Nice .... Let us not forget the merits of the simple warrior's kris . Attached Images

24th July 2008, 11:50 PM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Hey Bill, Are you talking abuot the first one in the second group? The twistore group? This is an interesting piece. An expert thinks it could be a "transition piece," possibly made in Brunei. Let me begin another thread with pictures of this Kris. An excellent suggestion about x-raying the hilt. I also want to x-ray my kris with the VOC blade. Any other suggestions? (You rent the x-ray machine by the hour -- $200 -- as many pictures as you want). I should add in the Maranao kris with the tang repair also. He can x-ray steel or iron better than copper/bronze. I should take several pieces. Any other suggestions?

25th July 2008, 01:04 AM	#2
chevalier Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 119	most of those would work for me and yea, the one i posted would probably be a pretty pricey piece. i just like the thick, wide blades and straight or semiwavy patterns, and no, the cockatoo pommel isnt a requirement for me. this may peeve some people, but i much perfer the shape and size of the moro weapon over the indonesian/malaysian variants.

25th July 2008, 01:11 AM	#3
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Bill, When you get a chance to take some more pics & open the new thread it would be appreciated. I would certainly think it is a early kris from what I can see. Doubt you could do much slashing without breaking the blade/tang but could stab quite well. I see three 18C's in your group, be nice to see all the 18C's you have & try to see if others will post theirs. I've got 2 but got to get the camera charged up & have a Mac & have not tried loading pictures on it yet. Once you have handled these 18C's it is easy to know the difference between these & the normal kris. The oldest one has a small round tang & the other has a oval tang that is much bigger. While the first would break in slashing mode, the second could do the task but still has a tapered tip. If you decide to have them x-rayed, i would do all the 18C's.

25th July 2008, 01:22 AM	#4
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Yup me too . I've been collecting keris and yet to own some good Philippines kris. Bill Marsh, I must admit I'm impressed with your collections. especially that cute one Luk 3. Lovely collections.

25th July 2008, 08:19 AM	#6
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,462	Hello Bill, I knew you had a big collection with great pieces, but your collection seems to be far more interesting as I even thought it was. Thanks for posting these wonderful pieces. I hope I can add a moro kris piece at my collection this year. And if it is half of the quality as the pieces you have, I would be satisfied! Regards, Maurice

25th July 2008, 10:22 PM	#8
chevalier Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 119	in bill's post i love the one fourth from the right in the fourth picture down.