rare kind of dapur

Battara · 20th July 2008, 10:55 PM

Also the ganga is not separate but a line chiseled in to make it look right, thus I agree David - I think it is new and unfinished.

Rick · 21st July 2008, 02:12 AM

Maybe it's just me; but could the wrongko be a reshaped Ladrang form ?

Fascinating piece; the wilah and wrongko with their deep scratches look almost half finished; the jejeran being the exception .

Anyway, a fascinating keris .

[addendum]

Yeah !
You guys are right .
Gonjo iras .
Time to visit the eye doctor ......

David · 21st July 2008, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Maybe it's just me; but could the wrongko be a reshaped Ladrang form ?

Yeah, i can see that.

Raden Usman Djogja · 21st July 2008, 03:00 AM

dear kerislovers,

Sometimes, we must think why empus obeyed customs and traditions. Though, when empus trespassed their customs and tradition, there was no punishments.

Then, when we found creations presumed made by empus, perhaps it was clear to us that most empus obeyed their customs and traditions. Any creation which seems too far from pakem, we must be very alert.

Perhaps, amongst empus there was a common conciousness, just after becoming a good followers, they had a small room to make inovation (just a smaal room, not the whole aspects). Because of this common consciousness, from generation to generation people paid respect to empus.

Nowadays, when factually empus are very poor, people still pay fully respect to them. However, some people believe that empus were extinct since 1942/45 (during the japanese invasion in south east asia). At least there is discontinuity before and after WWII.

OeS

20th July 2008, 10:55 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Also the ganga is not separate but a line chiseled in to make it look right, thus I agree David - I think it is new and unfinished.

21st July 2008, 02:12 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Maybe it's just me; but could the wrongko be a reshaped Ladrang form ? Fascinating piece; the wilah and wrongko with their deep scratches look almost half finished; the jejeran being the exception . Anyway, a fascinating keris . [addendum] Yeah ! You guys are right . Gonjo iras . Time to visit the eye doctor ......

21st July 2008, 03:00 AM	#4
Raden Usman Djogja Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 199	dear kerislovers, Sometimes, we must think why empus obeyed customs and traditions. Though, when empus trespassed their customs and tradition, there was no punishments. Then, when we found creations presumed made by empus, perhaps it was clear to us that most empus obeyed their customs and traditions. Any creation which seems too far from pakem, we must be very alert. Perhaps, amongst empus there was a common conciousness, just after becoming a good followers, they had a small room to make inovation (just a smaal room, not the whole aspects). Because of this common consciousness, from generation to generation people paid respect to empus. Nowadays, when factually empus are very poor, people still pay fully respect to them. However, some people believe that empus were extinct since 1942/45 (during the japanese invasion in south east asia). At least there is discontinuity before and after WWII. OeS