Certificate of authenticity

kronckew · 6th July 2008, 10:20 AM

oh, c'mon now, guys, be fair - i am sure the dealer in hong kong is reputable, honest and above board, after all them chinese housecarl swords, japanese, european, and russian swords that have come from there they do have a certain expertise. i saw a very nice german sabre i would have been happy to buy, except for the high shipping costs, it was lovely, especially the 'GERMANY' cast in the brass guard which proved it was real, and i'm sure the government is happy to issue export permits for real antique art treasures. the certificate even seems to say under the stamped siggy that it 'has been given to the best of our knowledge at the time and place of inspection'. how much more can you ask? i note this is also from the hong kong dealers thai branch.

this poor collector guy downsizing his horde of scabbords has had no takers for this fine piece of history. when i looked at the page, under the price it stated 'no interest till 2009' which made me wonder why anyone would be interested in 2009 if not now, but then it scrolled into an advert for mastercard - gotta check my ad blocker. too bad he could not take better pics, i'm sure y'all would be jumping all over this one. did i not see evidence that this was a wootz blade?

Gavin Nugent · 6th July 2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

the certificate even seems to say under the stamped siggy that it 'has been given to the best of our knowledge at the time and place of inspection'. how much more can you ask? i note this is also from the hong kong dealers thai branch.

Well presented kronckew

katana · 6th July 2008, 11:51 AM

The 'strange' thing is the web address (on the 'certificate'

) looks legit...

http://www.antiquetica.com/

Nicely put, Kronckew

David

Atlantia · 6th July 2008, 01:47 PM

What worries me most is when people make excuses for pictures.
As if every PC doesn't have the ability to lighten pictures or they live somewhere without the benefit of daylight.
Especially when they describe themselves as a collector.
Occasionally you see someone selling a sword who's obviously genuinely got no knowledge and just thinks that a general shot of the sword will do, but ANY collector knows what a buyer needs to see.
Blurry or dark doesn't cut it.

Having lightened this one, I really dont like the look of the woodwork, or the mounts, and the blade is quite ordinary.

6th July 2008, 10:20 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,216	oh, c'mon now, guys, be fair - i am sure the dealer in hong kong is reputable, honest and above board, after all them chinese housecarl swords, japanese, european, and russian swords that have come from there they do have a certain expertise. i saw a very nice german sabre i would have been happy to buy, except for the high shipping costs, it was lovely, especially the 'GERMANY' cast in the brass guard which proved it was real, and i'm sure the government is happy to issue export permits for real antique art treasures. the certificate even seems to say under the stamped siggy that it 'has been given to the best of our knowledge at the time and place of inspection'. how much more can you ask? i note this is also from the hong kong dealers thai branch. this poor collector guy downsizing his horde of scabbords has had no takers for this fine piece of history. when i looked at the page, under the price it stated 'no interest till 2009' which made me wonder why anyone would be interested in 2009 if not now, but then it scrolled into an advert for mastercard - gotta check my ad blocker. too bad he could not take better pics, i'm sure y'all would be jumping all over this one. did i not see evidence that this was a wootz blade? Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 6th July 2008 at 10:56 AM.

6th July 2008, 11:51 AM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	The 'strange' thing is the web address (on the 'certificate' ) looks legit... http://www.antiquetica.com/ Nicely put, Kronckew David

6th July 2008, 01:47 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	What worries me most is when people make excuses for pictures. As if every PC doesn't have the ability to lighten pictures or they live somewhere without the benefit of daylight. Especially when they describe themselves as a collector. Occasionally you see someone selling a sword who's obviously genuinely got no knowledge and just thinks that a general shot of the sword will do, but ANY collector knows what a buyer needs to see. Blurry or dark doesn't cut it. Having lightened this one, I really dont like the look of the woodwork, or the mounts, and the blade is quite ordinary.