Post Prices Please!

Dajak · 1st July 2008, 06:32 PM

People always wanna use sale price as an valeu to the item ,
so if they have something like it they say this is so much valeu because it is sold then for that price .

I don t like this way that is why I use offer when it do met my price it will be sold .

If anyone do not like it don t send an offer .

And not serious offers I delete no problem with that .

Ebay is build on that the people bid against each other but don't forget
now the names are hidden the seller can put some friends that raise the bid for him .

This happends so that is why I don t put anything on ebay .

Some people do give an price and get contacted and the buyer tells the seller can I get it for less because I already did buy so much this month I like to avoid that too Bill .

Ben

drdavid · 3rd July 2008, 08:20 AM

Bill and Lew,
I'm definitely with you on this one. I really dont like the trend towards not putting a price on items in the swap forum. It does open things up to less than desirable practices. There are other good reasons for showing prices, including assisting those of us less knowledgeable in the minefield. If someone wants to make an offer at a lesser price than that shown on the item or not be identified there is nothing stopping them sending a PM. I would much prefer to see swap offers or price only as the policy in this forum.
David

Lee · 3rd July 2008, 01:37 PM

I have moved this discussion from the swap forum.

To be entirely honest, I share some of the peeves noted and I have on several occasions come very close to making some fairly arbitrary and dramatic rule changes in relation to the swap forum.

We can never please everybody, but, if you have opinions on swap forum policies, please share them in this thread and I will work with the moderators team to evolve guidelines for the future.

josh stout · 3rd July 2008, 04:16 PM

I like posted prices, and several times a low price has prompted me into an impulse buy. Nevertheless, I do not think there needs to be a rule. While I hate having to ask for a price, I have had some very friendly conversations chatting about a piece when I do.

I feel "POR" is slightly more genteel, but it is less likely to make a sale than a simple posted price.

Josh

CourseEight · 3rd July 2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdavid

Bill and Lew,
I'm definitely with you on this one. I really dont like the trend towards not putting a price on items in the swap forum. It does open things up to less than desirable practices. There are other good reasons for showing prices, including assisting those of us less knowledgeable in the minefield. If someone wants to make an offer at a lesser price than that shown on the item or not be identified there is nothing stopping them sending a PM. I would much prefer to see swap offers or price only as the policy in this forum.
David

I agree with all of this, although I'm not sure we need to go as far as making it a rule. What if someone does a combined swap & cash?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

People always wanna use sale price as an valeu to the item ,
so if they have something like it they say this is so much valeu because it is sold then for that price .

I don t like this way that is why I use offer when it do met my price it will be sold .

I am trying hard to understand the argument for not posting prices, but I don't understand why this is a cause for concern. People are bound try to justify the prices of the things they are selling, and if a knowledgable collector sells something similar to a knowledable collector at price X, this is a far more grounded justification than most others. If a person tries to pass off something dissimilar as similar to your item, it is still the buyer's responsibility to know the difference, and I don't really think this makes it harder for the buyer, since at least they are given a point of comparison.

Maybe someone should put up a poll, and see exactly how the forum members at large feel about "priceless" auctions? If enough members are opposed to them, and this is made public, I think most sellers will realize it is in their best interest to make their prices transparent.

--Radleigh

CharlesS · 3rd July 2008, 06:39 PM

I have used POR in the past as well as "offers for sale or trade"...in both cases I generally always prefer a trade.

I can certainly see how some might frown on this practice, and will refrain from it in the future, from now on posting a price for sale, or potential trade value.

David · 3rd July 2008, 06:45 PM

The only reason i can see for not posting prices is so that the seller can get the very most offered for his piece after taking as many offers as he sees fit first. This type of closed auction seems just a little unfair to me and it alllows sellers to exaggerate what others have offered them if they choose to be unsavory about it. I am not accusing anyone here of that practice. But without transparency, who knows. Personally i don't usually make offers to sellers. They should know what they paid for the item and approximately how much they think it is worth on the current market. Then they should just set a price and ask for it. That is really the only way i will participate.

Rick · 3rd July 2008, 07:06 PM

Ditto .
One could always name a price and accept offers .

That's the way Real Estate works .

Bill M · 3rd July 2008, 07:38 PM

Looks like most people are for posting prices in the Swap Forum. It would also help to know trade value.

fernando · 3rd July 2008, 07:47 PM

If i may give an opinion, i think the number of reasons for posting offers with prices, in the Swap Forum, is countless.
Fernando

1st July 2008, 06:32 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	People always wanna use sale price as an valeu to the item , so if they have something like it they say this is so much valeu because it is sold then for that price . I don t like this way that is why I use offer when it do met my price it will be sold . If anyone do not like it don t send an offer . And not serious offers I delete no problem with that . Ebay is build on that the people bid against each other but don't forget now the names are hidden the seller can put some friends that raise the bid for him . This happends so that is why I don t put anything on ebay . Some people do give an price and get contacted and the buyer tells the seller can I get it for less because I already did buy so much this month I like to avoid that too Bill . Ben

3rd July 2008, 08:20 AM	#2
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Bill and Lew, I'm definitely with you on this one. I really dont like the trend towards not putting a price on items in the swap forum. It does open things up to less than desirable practices. There are other good reasons for showing prices, including assisting those of us less knowledgeable in the minefield. If someone wants to make an offer at a lesser price than that shown on the item or not be identified there is nothing stopping them sending a PM. I would much prefer to see swap offers or price only as the policy in this forum. David

3rd July 2008, 01:37 PM	#3
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 932	I have moved this discussion from the swap forum. To be entirely honest, I share some of the peeves noted and I have on several occasions come very close to making some fairly arbitrary and dramatic rule changes in relation to the swap forum. We can never please everybody, but, if you have opinions on swap forum policies, please share them in this thread and I will work with the moderators team to evolve guidelines for the future.

3rd July 2008, 04:16 PM	#4
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	I like posted prices, and several times a low price has prompted me into an impulse buy. Nevertheless, I do not think there needs to be a rule. While I hate having to ask for a price, I have had some very friendly conversations chatting about a piece when I do. I feel "POR" is slightly more genteel, but it is less likely to make a sale than a simple posted price. Josh

3rd July 2008, 06:39 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I have used POR in the past as well as "offers for sale or trade"...in both cases I generally always prefer a trade. I can certainly see how some might frown on this practice, and will refrain from it in the future, from now on posting a price for sale, or potential trade value.

3rd July 2008, 06:45 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	The only reason i can see for not posting prices is so that the seller can get the very most offered for his piece after taking as many offers as he sees fit first. This type of closed auction seems just a little unfair to me and it alllows sellers to exaggerate what others have offered them if they choose to be unsavory about it. I am not accusing anyone here of that practice. But without transparency, who knows. Personally i don't usually make offers to sellers. They should know what they paid for the item and approximately how much they think it is worth on the current market. Then they should just set a price and ask for it. That is really the only way i will participate.

3rd July 2008, 07:06 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Ditto . One could always name a price and accept offers . That's the way Real Estate works .

3rd July 2008, 07:38 PM	#9
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Looks like most people are for posting prices in the Swap Forum. It would also help to know trade value.

3rd July 2008, 07:47 PM	#10
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	If i may give an opinion, i think the number of reasons for posting offers with prices, in the Swap Forum, is countless. Fernando