"Mad Mahdi" Dagger

ariel · 28th March 2005, 05:55 AM

A friend of mine who is a linguist dealing with "protolanguages" told me that one of thr greatest mysteres of the European languages is the connection between the Basque and the Georgian; apparently, basque does not relate to anything else!
The Latin letters "HM" mentioned by Rivkin are often seen next to the "running wolf" mark on Solingen blades. Allegedly, these are initials of Henry Montmorancy, one of the French crusaders, whose soldiers went to the Caucasus and brought the "ters maimun" with them.

Yannis · 28th March 2005, 07:57 AM

Very interesting turn in the topic!

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Originally Posted by ariel

A friend of mine who is a linguist dealing with "protolanguages" told me that one of thr greatest mysteres of the European languages is the connection between the Basque and the Georgian; apparently, basque does not relate to anything else!

There is a strange relation between Caucasus and South West Europe. In the ancient world both present day Spain and a big part of present day Georgia were known as “Iberia”. Georgian Iberia was allied to Rome. It became a Byzantine province in the sixth century A.D.

Jim McDougall · 28th March 2005, 01:24 PM

Yannis and Ariel,
Outstanding information!!!Thank you so much for adding these facts. I had often wondered what the HM regarded, and I think it is fascinating to discover the connections between Georgia and so much other history. It seems these are the things that one seldom learns in standard history material generally available here in the west.
I really enjoy it when a topic is not necessarily changed but expanded, a complete learning experience! Well done and thank you guys!
All the best,
Jim

Aurangzeb · 28th March 2005, 11:12 PM

Hi all!

My Sudanese dagger's blade is snapped off at the very tip,and the bade is dull,whould it be wise to sharpen it or leave it as is.My personal thought is to leave it as is and not touch it, but it was suggested to me that I should sharpen it.

any advice whould be appreciated.

Rivkin · 29th March 2005, 01:11 AM

Well, sharpening is a phylosophical question - do you see your dagger as a weapon or as a historical memorabilia ?

I think most of the collectors do not sharpen their weapons (I do).

Aurangzeb · 29th March 2005, 01:26 AM

Hi Rivkin!

I see my Sudanese dagger as a weapon.I just got out the sharpening stone.

I put a very nice edge on it,but did not hurt the islamic inscriptions on the blade,the tip is still slightly snapped off but is less noticable,it looks great!

The reason I left the dip slighty dull is the tip protrudes from the sheath and I don't want to poke myself.

Thanks for the advice!

28th March 2005, 11:12 PM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	knife question Hi all! My Sudanese dagger's blade is snapped off at the very tip,and the bade is dull,whould it be wise to sharpen it or leave it as is.My personal thought is to leave it as is and not touch it, but it was suggested to me that I should sharpen it. any advice whould be appreciated.

29th March 2005, 01:26 AM	#6
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	weapon Hi Rivkin! I see my Sudanese dagger as a weapon.I just got out the sharpening stone. I put a very nice edge on it,but did not hurt the islamic inscriptions on the blade,the tip is still slightly snapped off but is less noticable,it looks great! The reason I left the dip slighty dull is the tip protrudes from the sheath and I don't want to poke myself. Thanks for the advice! Last edited by Aurangzeb; 29th March 2005 at 01:44 AM. Reason: update

28th March 2005, 05:55 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	A friend of mine who is a linguist dealing with "protolanguages" told me that one of thr greatest mysteres of the European languages is the connection between the Basque and the Georgian; apparently, basque does not relate to anything else! The Latin letters "HM" mentioned by Rivkin are often seen next to the "running wolf" mark on Solingen blades. Allegedly, these are initials of Henry Montmorancy, one of the French crusaders, whose soldiers went to the Caucasus and brought the "ters maimun" with them.

28th March 2005, 01:24 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Yannis and Ariel, Outstanding information!!!Thank you so much for adding these facts. I had often wondered what the HM regarded, and I think it is fascinating to discover the connections between Georgia and so much other history. It seems these are the things that one seldom learns in standard history material generally available here in the west. I really enjoy it when a topic is not necessarily changed but expanded, a complete learning experience! Well done and thank you guys! All the best, Jim

29th March 2005, 01:11 AM	#5
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Well, sharpening is a phylosophical question - do you see your dagger as a weapon or as a historical memorabilia ? I think most of the collectors do not sharpen their weapons (I do).