What is this?

Atlantia · 25th June 2008, 10:03 PM

Its new for sure, the handle looks like marine ivory. (Rick) There is a definate grain but its been polished to the N-th degree, I actually think it is real ivory.
Its nice but just a modern dagger, there are a lot of sellers on ebay UK claiming modern stuff is definately antique at the moment.

Gavin Nugent · 26th June 2008, 06:38 AM

Looks new to me, but regarding the handle, I would go so far as saying elephant ivory, have a look at the last image presented below and in the webpage, to my eyes it clearly looks like the black nerve ending found in the centre of a tusk is present in the very end of the handle.

Gav

Tim Simmons · 26th June 2008, 07:10 AM

I also got the feeling that the handle is actually ivory? The scabbard pictures are poor but I thought the leather did look used to some degree. I was more taken by the strange mix of styles. It appears well made. To me the blade does look new western art/fantasy work. Perhaps it is? just well done. I am wondering about the silver ring at the top of the handle. I have seen this style before on carving knives. I hate to say an item is a construct or rehilted or what ever, but in this case I really do think this is a construction of found bits. I think the scabbard is the only real ethnographic {in our sense of the word} weapon part and has some age perhaps Balkan? I am sure one could search the archive and find the origin.

Montino Bourbon · 26th June 2008, 10:05 AM

and the damascus looks like totally modern Indian work.

katana · 26th June 2008, 10:40 AM

Saw this on eBay too, as many have said...seems new, have to agree blade is modern, probably Indian. (there is alot of this type of 'Bird's eye' patterned blades for sale from India)

Surely 19th C ivory would have alot more patina and age colouration...and the handle design is highly impractical ... smooth surfaced with a taper towards the pommel end is not conducive to a 'secure' grip, especially with a relatively heavy blade

Regards David

Rick · 26th June 2008, 03:25 PM

I guess I need new glasses .

katana · 26th June 2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I guess I need new glasses .

You and Me...both

.........I hadn't noticed the possibility of Ivory either

26th June 2008, 06:38 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hmmm Looks new to me, but regarding the handle, I would go so far as saying elephant ivory, have a look at the last image presented below and in the webpage, to my eyes it clearly looks like the black nerve ending found in the centre of a tusk is present in the very end of the handle. Gav Attached Images

26th June 2008, 07:10 AM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,856	I also got the feeling that the handle is actually ivory? The scabbard pictures are poor but I thought the leather did look used to some degree. I was more taken by the strange mix of styles. It appears well made. To me the blade does look new western art/fantasy work. Perhaps it is? just well done. I am wondering about the silver ring at the top of the handle. I have seen this style before on carving knives. I hate to say an item is a construct or rehilted or what ever, but in this case I really do think this is a construction of found bits. I think the scabbard is the only real ethnographic {in our sense of the word} weapon part and has some age perhaps Balkan? I am sure one could search the archive and find the origin. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 26th June 2008 at 07:30 AM.

26th June 2008, 10:05 AM	#4
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	I find the proportions 'incorrect' and the damascus looks like totally modern Indian work.

25th June 2008, 10:03 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Its new for sure, the handle looks like marine ivory. (Rick) There is a definate grain but its been polished to the N-th degree, I actually think it is real ivory. Its nice but just a modern dagger, there are a lot of sellers on ebay UK claiming modern stuff is definately antique at the moment.

26th June 2008, 10:40 AM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Saw this on eBay too, as many have said...seems new, have to agree blade is modern, probably Indian. (there is alot of this type of 'Bird's eye' patterned blades for sale from India) Surely 19th C ivory would have alot more patina and age colouration...and the handle design is highly impractical ... smooth surfaced with a taper towards the pommel end is not conducive to a 'secure' grip, especially with a relatively heavy blade Regards David

26th June 2008, 03:25 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I guess I need new glasses .