MADURA ornamental hilts

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 08:46 AM

Hilt 17

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 08:47 AM

Hilt 18

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 08:50 AM

Last one for moment

Marcokeris · 22nd June 2008, 10:37 AM

Nice hits. N.8 i like a lot

jonng · 22nd June 2008, 02:18 PM

Here's another motif.

ganjawulung · 22nd June 2008, 05:34 PM

Michael, Marco, Alan and Jonng, thanks a lot for your beautiful pics of maduran hilts. Very useful comparison...

Ganjawulung

A. G. Maisey · 22nd June 2008, 11:36 PM

I selected these hilts for posting because, as I have said, each hilt is a little bit different in some way from the usual run of Madura hilts. I paid no attention to quality, only to whether there was something a bit different in form or motif.When we come down one level, and look at the individual components of the various motifs, some of the inclusions in Madura hilt motifs can create much food for thought.

jwkiernan · 14th November 2013, 06:10 PM

Beautiful hilts one and all! Here is a donoriko in ivory...unfortunately when I found it several years ago someone sanded a small area to see if it was ivory...guess they never heard of a heating a pin...regardless it does not take away rom the beauty or intricate carvings.

A. G. Maisey · 24th November 2013, 05:14 AM

My daughter-in-law's mother comes from Madura, she not Madurese, but Chinese, however she does speak Madura dialect, necessary, because of her business activities. Yesterday I spoke with her by phone. She has no idea of the meaning of "donoriko" and suggested that it might be Javanese rather than Madurese.

The little book on hilts that was published in 2003 by Suhartono Rahardjo mentions donoriko hilts as a Madurese form of the Javanese tunggaksemi hilt, but he does not give an explanation of the meaning of the word. Since he does give explanations that clarify meaning for other Madura hilts, maybe he couldn't get a precise meaning for donoriko either.

Perhaps it is possible that "donoriko" is a proper name that applies only to this form of hilt, and its origin has been lost in time.

I do have another Madura contact, but at the moment she is out of reach, when I get the opportunity I'll run this question past her.

Jean · 22nd November 2014, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwkiernan

Beautiful hilts one and all! Here is a donoriko in ivory...unfortunately when I found it several years ago someone sanded a small area to see if it was ivory...guess they never heard of a heating a pin...regardless it does not take away rom the beauty or intricate carvings.

Hi,
IMO the whiter area on one side of your hilt is not because somebody sanded it to check if it was ivory but because the protruding "ear" was broken so he had to file it to make it smooth. The same happened on the other side of the "head" but earlier so the repair is not visible. You can clearly see the "ears" on the hilt posted by David.
Regards

22nd June 2008, 08:46 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Hilt 17 Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 08:47 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Hilt 18 Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 08:50 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Last one for moment Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 02:18 PM	#5
jonng Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 41	Here's another motif. Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 05:34 PM	#6
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Thanks a lot Michael, Marco, Alan and Jonng, thanks a lot for your beautiful pics of maduran hilts. Very useful comparison... Ganjawulung

22nd June 2008, 10:37 AM	#4
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Nice hits. N.8 i like a lot

22nd June 2008, 11:36 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	I selected these hilts for posting because, as I have said, each hilt is a little bit different in some way from the usual run of Madura hilts. I paid no attention to quality, only to whether there was something a bit different in form or motif.When we come down one level, and look at the individual components of the various motifs, some of the inclusions in Madura hilt motifs can create much food for thought.

14th November 2013, 06:10 PM	#8
jwkiernan Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37	Donoriko Ukiran Beautiful hilts one and all! Here is a donoriko in ivory...unfortunately when I found it several years ago someone sanded a small area to see if it was ivory...guess they never heard of a heating a pin...regardless it does not take away rom the beauty or intricate carvings. Attached Images

24th November 2013, 05:14 AM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	My daughter-in-law's mother comes from Madura, she not Madurese, but Chinese, however she does speak Madura dialect, necessary, because of her business activities. Yesterday I spoke with her by phone. She has no idea of the meaning of "donoriko" and suggested that it might be Javanese rather than Madurese. The little book on hilts that was published in 2003 by Suhartono Rahardjo mentions donoriko hilts as a Madurese form of the Javanese tunggaksemi hilt, but he does not give an explanation of the meaning of the word. Since he does give explanations that clarify meaning for other Madura hilts, maybe he couldn't get a precise meaning for donoriko either. Perhaps it is possible that "donoriko" is a proper name that applies only to this form of hilt, and its origin has been lost in time. I do have another Madura contact, but at the moment she is out of reach, when I get the opportunity I'll run this question past her.