Indian/Afghan/Islamic Flintlocks & Mathclocks. Any interest?

ward · 22nd June 2008, 01:59 AM

that is a nice omani gun. The chiseling on these guns are almost always excelent the break is normal for this type of weapon. They are made out of rosewood and ususally have the match wraped around the stock. The barrell is early 18th century nice.I believe the pic you are talking about is a Sardinian piece. I will get pics in a couple of days, They are pretty rare chiselled steel overlaying a very slim stock. I have been collecting for a while rifles.powder flask,chain mail,swords,jambiya's etc

ward · 22nd June 2008, 02:13 AM

here is a pic of how the match should wrap around that omani stock and the match holder should be mounted on the rifle. crapey pics but should give you the idea

Atlantia · 22nd June 2008, 02:33 AM

Thats amazing! I can see on yours that the flash pan is the same as on mine, they look like a strange bird head when you look down on them. I wondered what you meant by 'match holder'!
You mean this thing do you?

That was rammed very firmly onto where the ramrod should be!
What is its purpose?

Atlantia · 22nd June 2008, 02:36 AM

You know I had no idea it was Omani!
And Early 18th century is a bonus for sure :-)
Thanks Ward

Gene

ward · 22nd June 2008, 03:04 AM

yes the end of yours should be hollow and when the match needs to be extinquished is put into the end of it. The omani is a lot more unusual and you should restore it you will not find many of them in todays market.that piece should be under the coiled match.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 14th January 2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

yes the end of yours should be hollow and when the match needs to be extinquished is put into the end of it. The omani is a lot more unusual and you should restore it you will not find many of them in todays market.that piece should be under the coiled match.

Salaams Ward, Nice collection.
The Omani weapon is known in Oman as "father of the match." Abu Futtila. The other term is Roumi meaning "long leaf" or "spear." Often wolf skin was wrapped around the cannon section where you rest your cheek on firing . Woolf skin was used to protect the wearer from evil spirits and or as strong talismanic majic. They are very rare now especially with the brass fire spoon and with original brass charge holders and belts. There are 3 types of gunpowder flask in either Gazelle horn, wood or Omani silver( Talahiiq). The Omanis made their own ammo and gunpowder .. The later from an odd looking plant called Sodoms apple which is a poisonous green leafed prolific monster with purple flowers growing wild here and mixed with locally mined sulphur etc. People clearly experimented with modern powders in the 20th C as I have several cannon ends only since modern gunpowder blows the first barrel weld and must have been hugely dangerous.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

A.alnakkas · 14th January 2012, 06:56 PM

I got nothing to add here except for the correct meaning of "Abu Fatilla"

In a literal translation, Abu Fatilla indeed would mean "father of the match" but "abu" is used here to denote "the one with the match"

22nd June 2008, 02:13 AM	#2
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	here is a pic of how the match should wrap around that omani stock and the match holder should be mounted on the rifle. crapey pics but should give you the idea Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 03:04 AM	#5
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	yes the end of yours should be hollow and when the match needs to be extinquished is put into the end of it. The omani is a lot more unusual and you should restore it you will not find many of them in todays market.that piece should be under the coiled match. Attached Images

22nd June 2008, 01:59 AM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	that is a nice omani gun. The chiseling on these guns are almost always excelent the break is normal for this type of weapon. They are made out of rosewood and ususally have the match wraped around the stock. The barrell is early 18th century nice.I believe the pic you are talking about is a Sardinian piece. I will get pics in a couple of days, They are pretty rare chiselled steel overlaying a very slim stock. I have been collecting for a while rifles.powder flask,chain mail,swords,jambiya's etc

22nd June 2008, 02:33 AM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thats amazing! I can see on yours that the flash pan is the same as on mine, they look like a strange bird head when you look down on them. I wondered what you meant by 'match holder'! You mean this thing do you? That was rammed very firmly onto where the ramrod should be! What is its purpose?

22nd June 2008, 02:36 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	You know I had no idea it was Omani! And Early 18th century is a bonus for sure :-) Thanks Ward Gene

14th January 2012, 06:56 PM	#7
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	I got nothing to add here except for the correct meaning of "Abu Fatilla" In a literal translation, Abu Fatilla indeed would mean "father of the match" but "abu" is used here to denote "the one with the match"