This just finished on eBay....any ideas

VANDOO · 16th June 2008, 11:00 PM

IT REMINDS ME OF THE VARIOUS SIMPLE FORMS OF WEAPONS MADE BY PRISONERS KNOWN IN THE USA AS SHIV'S. THEY CAN BE MADE FROM MOST EVERYTHING FROM A NAIL, BONE, CAN, GLASS OR A PIECE OF SILVERWARE.
BUT IT LOOKS TO HAVE BEEN FORGED WHICH WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY IN PRISON SO I WOULD ALSO SUSPECT IT TO BE A SIMPLE KNIFE MADE BY A BLACKSMITH.

katana · 16th June 2008, 11:58 PM

Thanks Gentlemen

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I suspected as much....still it does have a certain amount of 'charm'. The blade seems to be reasonably well made/forged .

Regards David

ariel · 17th June 2008, 12:19 AM

Another one that comes to mind is a medieval Dussack: a simple and cheap sword-size weapon used by the Czech Hussites. It absolutely required a heavy leather glove.

fearn · 17th June 2008, 01:33 AM

Couple of modern traditional blacksmiths make a knife that's combined with a flint striker. That's what this one looks like.

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Jim McDougall · 17th June 2008, 05:33 AM

Looks a lot like an old dussage! and it seems like these were some sort of blacksmith test item. The far fetched description on the item is incredible! It seems that often the 'thuggee' term is dragged out and used as a colorful term by people who have no knowledge on this cult whatsoever. The thugs only specific weapon was actually a ceremonial axe used for burials. Of course there may have been other weapons used, but nothing distinct and depended on local weapons in the area.

Gavin Nugent · 17th June 2008, 09:51 AM

Maybe someone can bring them to light but weren't there simple trench knives made in the world wars that followed a simple pattern similar to this??

regards

Gav

mross · 17th June 2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Maybe someone can bring them to light but weren't there simple trench knives made in the world wars that followed a simple pattern similar to this??

regards

Gav

I believe what you are refering to is trench knife, basically a knuckle duster attached to a knife. A "D" guard bowie will also sort of fit.

17th June 2008, 09:51 AM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Interesting Maybe someone can bring them to light but weren't there simple trench knives made in the world wars that followed a simple pattern similar to this?? regards Gav

16th June 2008, 11:00 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT REMINDS ME OF THE VARIOUS SIMPLE FORMS OF WEAPONS MADE BY PRISONERS KNOWN IN THE USA AS SHIV'S. THEY CAN BE MADE FROM MOST EVERYTHING FROM A NAIL, BONE, CAN, GLASS OR A PIECE OF SILVERWARE. BUT IT LOOKS TO HAVE BEEN FORGED WHICH WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY IN PRISON SO I WOULD ALSO SUSPECT IT TO BE A SIMPLE KNIFE MADE BY A BLACKSMITH.

16th June 2008, 11:58 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thanks Gentlemen , I suspected as much....still it does have a certain amount of 'charm'. The blade seems to be reasonably well made/forged . Regards David

17th June 2008, 12:19 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Another one that comes to mind is a medieval Dussack: a simple and cheap sword-size weapon used by the Czech Hussites. It absolutely required a heavy leather glove.

17th June 2008, 01:33 AM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Couple of modern traditional blacksmiths make a knife that's combined with a flint striker. That's what this one looks like. F

17th June 2008, 05:33 AM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	Looks a lot like an old dussage! and it seems like these were some sort of blacksmith test item. The far fetched description on the item is incredible! It seems that often the 'thuggee' term is dragged out and used as a colorful term by people who have no knowledge on this cult whatsoever. The thugs only specific weapon was actually a ceremonial axe used for burials. Of course there may have been other weapons used, but nothing distinct and depended on local weapons in the area.