Zig-Zag Ladder Pattern

ALEX · 4th June 2008, 05:56 PM

Ward, I have to agree with you 100%. Especially with the last sentence:-)
This was an important/rare blade. Congrats to the lucky buyer!!!

ariel · 4th June 2008, 07:12 PM

Ward, I respect your opinion very much, but I would never trust anything uttered or offered for sale by a person claiming to communicate recently with Dr. Figiel.

ward · 4th June 2008, 08:03 PM

Yes I saw that and thought it was funny. I generally ignore the descriptions and just look at the piece. It is the same when people quote Tirri or Pant as gospel on the subject

ALEX · 4th June 2008, 08:39 PM

Very true Ward. Anyone who ever bought anything from Middle Eastern bazaars would better ignore the claims that every piece is made by AssadAllah and is 800 years old... at least:-) But Ariel also has a good point - the seller's credibility, or lack of it, hurt his business.

ward · 4th June 2008, 08:49 PM

very true. I miss the bazaars it has been a few months since I have been in them. Inshallah I will go back soon

Jim McDougall · 4th June 2008, 09:59 PM

Perhaps nobody noticed Lew's question, which seems particularly key to this discussion.....when exactly did we lose Dr. Figiel? Does anybody know?

I was also unaware that Brian Robson ("Swords of the British Army") had passed, and uncertain of when that took place. It is always sad to lose these men who have contributed so much to the study of weapons. Surprisingly, even those whose work has been known to be flawed in varying degree, have in thier own way set the path for research, such as Dr.Pant.

Jeff D · 5th June 2008, 02:53 AM

Hi All,

I would be very careful of anything this seller has to offer. For fun you should follow his other listings. He does have access to relatively skilled craftsmen but he rarely does his home work and will make big mistakes. A lot of his offerings are composites as well. I agree 100 % with Jeff. The lines are less "organic" because they were made very superficial. This is an old rusty blade dolled up. It has been hand polished so that the wootz pattern has not been lost.
Dr Leo S. Figiel died in the 90's (I will see if I can find out when). This gentleman consulted Mr. Leo Figiel, I don't know who he is but he might be a jeweler

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All the Best
Jeff

4th June 2008, 05:56 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Ward, I have to agree with you 100%. Especially with the last sentence:-) This was an important/rare blade. Congrats to the lucky buyer!!!

4th June 2008, 07:12 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Ward, I respect your opinion very much, but I would never trust anything uttered or offered for sale by a person claiming to communicate recently with Dr. Figiel.

4th June 2008, 08:03 PM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Yes I saw that and thought it was funny. I generally ignore the descriptions and just look at the piece. It is the same when people quote Tirri or Pant as gospel on the subject

4th June 2008, 08:39 PM	#4
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Very true Ward. Anyone who ever bought anything from Middle Eastern bazaars would better ignore the claims that every piece is made by AssadAllah and is 800 years old... at least:-) But Ariel also has a good point - the seller's credibility, or lack of it, hurt his business.

4th June 2008, 08:49 PM	#5
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	very true. I miss the bazaars it has been a few months since I have been in them. Inshallah I will go back soon

4th June 2008, 09:59 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	Perhaps nobody noticed Lew's question, which seems particularly key to this discussion.....when exactly did we lose Dr. Figiel? Does anybody know? I was also unaware that Brian Robson ("Swords of the British Army") had passed, and uncertain of when that took place. It is always sad to lose these men who have contributed so much to the study of weapons. Surprisingly, even those whose work has been known to be flawed in varying degree, have in thier own way set the path for research, such as Dr.Pant.

5th June 2008, 02:53 AM	#7
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi All, I would be very careful of anything this seller has to offer. For fun you should follow his other listings. He does have access to relatively skilled craftsmen but he rarely does his home work and will make big mistakes. A lot of his offerings are composites as well. I agree 100 % with Jeff. The lines are less "organic" because they were made very superficial. This is an old rusty blade dolled up. It has been hand polished so that the wootz pattern has not been lost. Dr Leo S. Figiel died in the 90's (I will see if I can find out when). This gentleman consulted Mr. Leo Figiel, I don't know who he is but he might be a jeweler . All the Best Jeff