Mandaya dagger for comment

Lew · 23rd May 2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I would say restore - the question is what will you restore?

Jose

The hilt needs to have the silver bands restored. The scabbard needs to have that ugly wire removed and replaced with a couple of silver bands.

Lew

Battara · 25th May 2008, 07:12 PM

After looking at the pictures carefully, I agree that the hilt had silver bands on it. Yes the wrap on the scabbard looks newer and that it probably had pierced or "pin pricked" silver design. I can do both if you are interested.

Rick as far as the hilt design is concerned, I would say that it is a similar idea to the same shape found on the top of Kalinga and other Igorot shields (though not related) in that the middle is the head and the other 2 "wings" are arms raised up.

Rick · 26th May 2008, 03:37 AM

I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

Lew · 26th May 2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

Rick I think those lines were scribed in order give the maker a point of reference to mount the bands? Here is one that Bill Marsh has for comparison.

Lew

Battara · 28th May 2008, 07:35 PM

I took a close look at the arms and there is darker patina in between some of the bands which indicates to me the former presence of silver bands (which give off a dark patina). At first guess, however, I thought that the lines were for silver wire. The scabbard is recent.

25th May 2008, 07:12 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	After looking at the pictures carefully, I agree that the hilt had silver bands on it. Yes the wrap on the scabbard looks newer and that it probably had pierced or "pin pricked" silver design. I can do both if you are interested. Rick as far as the hilt design is concerned, I would say that it is a similar idea to the same shape found on the top of Kalinga and other Igorot shields (though not related) in that the middle is the head and the other 2 "wings" are arms raised up.

26th May 2008, 03:37 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

28th May 2008, 07:35 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I took a close look at the arms and there is darker patina in between some of the bands which indicates to me the former presence of silver bands (which give off a dark patina). At first guess, however, I thought that the lines were for silver wire. The scabbard is recent.