Nigerian, Cameroon stick club

Freddy · 21st May 2008, 05:32 PM

Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim.

Here are the requested dimensions of the knob :

diameter : 3,7 cm

heigth : 2,1 cm

The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely :

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ

I have no idea what this means.

Lew · 21st May 2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim.

Here are the requested dimensions of the knob :

diameter : 3,7 cm

heigth : 2,1 cm

The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely :

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ

I have no idea what this means.

ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ is Basque. Sorry that fact was already established

Lew

Freddy · 21st May 2008, 06:18 PM

I knew that, Lew

I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?

fernando · 21st May 2008, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy

I knew that, Lew

I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?

H Freddy
Try and look in the Web for a dictionary in Euskera, which is Basque in their language.
It could be ( could be) that the text in your piece means "ENEMY FRIGHTENER", as ETSAI means enemy and BELDURRARAZI means to frighten.
Fernando

Tim Simmons · 21st May 2008, 09:34 PM

Freddy. I am so glad you like it as I do. Thank you for the dimensions. I am sourcing some cow or sheep's horn to restore the pommel. Mushroom form as yours or like the old ones in the "Ainciart" web site all depending on what I recieve. I think it is worth the bother and with a sprinkle of magic it will be hard to tell it was not an old replacement. I think this comparison is worth serious thought.

Tim Simmons · 24th May 2008, 04:09 PM

Cow horn. Size and shape dictated by the quality of the horn. Waiting for the PVA to dry.

Jim McDougall · 24th May 2008, 06:46 PM

This thread is really fascinating and informative! Thank you Freddy for identifying this as a Basque walking stick. If ever there was a distinct ethnographic group it would be the Basques, who if I am not mistaken, maintain thier unique language and culture still.
I think it is a beautiful item Tim, and it seems esoteric enough that it would have some potential as far as value.

21st May 2008, 09:34 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Freddy. I am so glad you like it as I do. Thank you for the dimensions. I am sourcing some cow or sheep's horn to restore the pommel. Mushroom form as yours or like the old ones in the "Ainciart" web site all depending on what I recieve. I think it is worth the bother and with a sprinkle of magic it will be hard to tell it was not an old replacement. I think this comparison is worth serious thought. Attached Images

24th May 2008, 04:09 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Cow horn. Size and shape dictated by the quality of the horn. Waiting for the PVA to dry. Attached Images

21st May 2008, 05:32 PM	#1
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Your piece is far nicer than mine, Tim. Here are the requested dimensions of the knob : diameter : 3,7 cm heigth : 2,1 cm The lower part of my piece is also engraved with a text, namely : ETSAIEN BELDURRANAIZ I have no idea what this means.

21st May 2008, 06:18 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	I knew that, Lew I tried to find a translation on the internet, but wasn't very successful. Are there any Basque forum members ?

24th May 2008, 06:46 PM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	This thread is really fascinating and informative! Thank you Freddy for identifying this as a Basque walking stick. If ever there was a distinct ethnographic group it would be the Basques, who if I am not mistaken, maintain thier unique language and culture still. I think it is a beautiful item Tim, and it seems esoteric enough that it would have some potential as far as value.