Bali togogan (figural) hilts

[Rick]

Interesting, the 'slot' on boney's belly; a little too deep to be a fold of fat .

I have seen an ivory togo of a little boy in nearly the same pose .
I think we've all seen this particular example at some point or other; I just can't find a picture of the little fella .

[A. G. Maisey]

Yeah, you're right Rick. Its not a fat fold, its got another ridge inside it, and it curls up a bit at the ends. My guess is that it refers to some feature of the original nasty. Off the top of my head I don't know what this might be, but I'll have a look in a couple of books and see if I can find some character whose belly opens up. Probably one there somewhere.

[Rick]

Here's another fellow for identification .
What is he holding ?
There is a bit of reflective glass set in his headress .

Polychrome over wood; humble work but I like it .

[lemmythesmith]

Hi Rick, this guy is holding a similar thing, he's down as Barong or a temple guardian.....looks like it's a torch he's got hold of.

[Rick]

True they both hold similar objects but the aspect of each figure is very different .
The Togo seems to show downcast eyes and a serene appearance as opposed to the aggresive stance and bared fangs of the statue; this is a aspect often given the 'Good Guys' in the Wayang .
I don't think this fellow is a demon .

[ganjawulung]

Originally Posted by lemmythesmith

Hi Rick, this guy is holding a similar thing, he's down as Barong or a temple guardian.....looks like it's a torch he's got hold of.

This fellow is holding a "gada" (pls spell it - gaw-daw) or "godo". Bima usually used a "gada" as his weapon - beside his deadly "kuku pancanaka" or his long nail. But not every fellow with gada is Bima. Sometimes, demi-god, demi-ape Hanuman, Hanila, Hanggada and also Sugriwa, Subali sometimes use gada as their weapon...

Some "gate guardian" statues, also wears gada...

[Marcokeris]

Rick also i agree with Ganjawulung. I think your hits is Bima with his club used to crash enemy's head.
Usually Bima is a rather angry pankanaka (opposite of his brother Arjuna that is a kind gentleman loved by women)
I put another Bima hit with the same weapon.

[Battara]

.....Although Bima was loved by a demon.........and bore a demon son in Mahabharata

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Rick also i agree with Ganjawulung. I think your hits is Bima with his club used to crash enemy's head.
Usually Bima is a rather angry pankanaka (opposite of his brother Arjuna that is a kind gentleman loved by women)
I put another Bima hit with the same weapon.

There is a resemblance but I'm still intrigued by the fangless, peaceful aspect of the togo that I have submitted .
So alike, yet so different .

I'm also fascinated by these Bali hilts that are polychrome over some kind of gesso-like material applied to carved wood .

Marcokris shows another example of this type of hilt in the Ligan thread .

Rick

[Jussi M.]

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Rick also I agree with Ganjawulung. I think your hits is Bima with his club used to crash enemy's head.
Usually Bima is a rather angry pankanaka (opposite of his brother Arjuna that is a kind gentleman loved by women)
I put another Bima hit with the same weapon.

I have no clue of this "Gentleman" Bima but the position he is at strikes me strongly as like he indeed is ready to whack somebody with a serious intent