A strange choora......

RobT · 29th April 2008, 02:58 AM

Hi Ariel,
The word "Cloth" (and the other letters on that line) is in Times Roman Bold. The fact that the type is pseudo condensed indicates that it was originally set in cold type as opposed to hot lead. This would give a date of around the early 1970s at the earliest. Before the Mac, pseudo condensing was done with a special lens on a flatbed camera. This process was relatively pricey and was almost always reserved for headline type (36 pt at minimum) in more expensive ads. At a rough guess I'd put the type on the hilt at about 18 to 24 pt and the quality of that type doesn't indicate high end printing. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say the type was set on a Mac (or a PC) which gives a date of at best of the late 1980s.
Sincerely,
RobT

ariel · 29th April 2008, 12:22 PM

If you are not pulling my leg, this is an outstanding analysis!

knife7knut · 29th April 2008, 06:45 PM

Thanks to all who commented on the post.Upon looking at the scales a bit closer,I discovered that the paper inserts are actually between the outside plastic and the inside layer.Given that I don't know a whole lot about printing,it appears that the background of the main layer of paper(card)is some sort of exaggerated dot matrix type of printing such as that used on comic book covers and Roy Lichtenstein paintings.There is a different type of background at the end pieces;a metallic sort of like gift wrapping paper only there is print on it as well.The colored squares appear to be overlays.
I was more curious as to what the cyphers on the top of the spine say.
Also this came from the same collection as the two keris I posted earlier as well as an unknown type of knife and a huge tourist style barong with a blade over two feet long and pearl decorated sheath.

RobT · 30th April 2008, 01:19 AM

Hi Ariel,
It's on the square. I started in type just as hot metal was going out in the 70s and I've worked in just about all the cold type jobs there were in the old typehouses. Paste-up and mechanical, camera, proofreading, typesetting and service desk. Résumé on request.
That last part about the résumé not quite so
Sincerely,
RobT

ariel · 30th April 2008, 01:26 AM

In this case.... my hat is off to you!
Just to think of it: what kind of unexpected clues can one get by posting on this site! Such a tremendous breadth of expertise at one's disposal!

29th April 2008, 02:58 AM	#1
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 536	Times Roman Bold Hi Ariel, The word "Cloth" (and the other letters on that line) is in Times Roman Bold. The fact that the type is pseudo condensed indicates that it was originally set in cold type as opposed to hot lead. This would give a date of around the early 1970s at the earliest. Before the Mac, pseudo condensing was done with a special lens on a flatbed camera. This process was relatively pricey and was almost always reserved for headline type (36 pt at minimum) in more expensive ads. At a rough guess I'd put the type on the hilt at about 18 to 24 pt and the quality of that type doesn't indicate high end printing. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say the type was set on a Mac (or a PC) which gives a date of at best of the late 1980s. Sincerely, RobT

30th April 2008, 01:19 AM	#4
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 536	I'm a typographer Hi Ariel, It's on the square. I started in type just as hot metal was going out in the 70s and I've worked in just about all the cold type jobs there were in the old typehouses. Paste-up and mechanical, camera, proofreading, typesetting and service desk. Résumé on request. That last part about the résumé not quite so Sincerely, RobT

29th April 2008, 12:22 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	If you are not pulling my leg, this is an outstanding analysis!

29th April 2008, 06:45 PM	#3
knife7knut Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 31	Thanks to all who commented on the post.Upon looking at the scales a bit closer,I discovered that the paper inserts are actually between the outside plastic and the inside layer.Given that I don't know a whole lot about printing,it appears that the background of the main layer of paper(card)is some sort of exaggerated dot matrix type of printing such as that used on comic book covers and Roy Lichtenstein paintings.There is a different type of background at the end pieces;a metallic sort of like gift wrapping paper only there is print on it as well.The colored squares appear to be overlays. I was more curious as to what the cyphers on the top of the spine say. Also this came from the same collection as the two keris I posted earlier as well as an unknown type of knife and a huge tourist style barong with a blade over two feet long and pearl decorated sheath.

30th April 2008, 01:26 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	In this case.... my hat is off to you! Just to think of it: what kind of unexpected clues can one get by posting on this site! Such a tremendous breadth of expertise at one's disposal!