Silver mounted badek for coments

Gonzalo G · 20th April 2008, 11:33 PM

Excuse me, does any of you have historical references about this kind of work in silver? I mean, it can only be made chiselled from "above" with the scabbard already formed and soldered, or it can be made with a combination of repousee and chiselling, from both sides of the open piece, and the scabbard finally been closed and soldered, which is a very difficult thing to do as the fitting among the borders would be distorted by the previous work. I´ve read many times the use of the word "repousee" applied to both kind of techniques. Chiselling can also be made creating different levels on the surface (volumes), and not only as a plain one level draw. Thank you.

asomotif · 23rd April 2008, 12:32 PM

Dear Gonzalo,

Nice badek. Good addition to any collection.
I have no historical info on this workmanship.
But I am told that this work needs working from both sides of the metal sheet.
If this is done the old way a lot of work and time goed into it.
The metal must be heated and cooled down between the forging to prevent it from cracking.

Battara · 23rd April 2008, 09:19 PM

Gonzalo, chiseling refers to more of an engraving process where material is removed from the surface. Repousse is where the sheet metal must be thin and hammered from both sides (one side would be called chasing). Asomotif is right in that the material for repousse must be reheated constantly.

Nice repousse on the badik scabbard.

fernando · 24th April 2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

... Nice repousse on the badik scabbard.

Nice to hear that, José.
I see that this time i've got myself a decent piece.
Fernando

asomotif · 24th April 2008, 12:00 PM

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I see that this time i've got myself a decent piece.

Very decent IMHO

fernando · 24th April 2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

... Very decent IMHO

Oh boy ... thanks a lot Willem

Mark · 24th April 2008, 03:41 PM

The designs look Burmese to me (see example below). Maybe it is from southern Burma. They are used in both Burma and Thailand, undoubtedly due to the Malaysian influence (not the other way around).

24th April 2008, 12:00 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	PHP Code: `I see that this time i've got myself a decent piece.` Very decent IMHO

24th April 2008, 03:41 PM	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	The designs look Burmese to me (see example below). Maybe it is from southern Burma. They are used in both Burma and Thailand, undoubtedly due to the Malaysian influence (not the other way around). Attached Images

20th April 2008, 11:33 PM	#1
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	Excuse me, does any of you have historical references about this kind of work in silver? I mean, it can only be made chiselled from "above" with the scabbard already formed and soldered, or it can be made with a combination of repousee and chiselling, from both sides of the open piece, and the scabbard finally been closed and soldered, which is a very difficult thing to do as the fitting among the borders would be distorted by the previous work. I´ve read many times the use of the word "repousee" applied to both kind of techniques. Chiselling can also be made creating different levels on the surface (volumes), and not only as a plain one level draw. Thank you.

23rd April 2008, 12:32 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Dear Gonzalo, Nice badek. Good addition to any collection. I have no historical info on this workmanship. But I am told that this work needs working from both sides of the metal sheet. If this is done the old way a lot of work and time goed into it. The metal must be heated and cooled down between the forging to prevent it from cracking.

23rd April 2008, 09:19 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,300	Gonzalo, chiseling refers to more of an engraving process where material is removed from the surface. Repousse is where the sheet metal must be thin and hammered from both sides (one side would be called chasing). Asomotif is right in that the material for repousse must be reheated constantly. Nice repousse on the badik scabbard.