Parang Ilang Mata Bayu part 2

Mytribalworld · 28th March 2008, 08:02 PM

Problem is the bayu's which are very rare also appear in various styles and shapes.That makes a study to them not easier.Most museums has only one or if you are lucky two in their collection.But if those two are totally different the only thing in common is that they are double edged and have a spearlike blade.

I think ( no proof anywhere) that bayu's originally has there roots in the Ngadju area or at least in the south of Borneo.
On the fist one you listed Michael I think its a Ngadju type.They seems to like to design weaponery with more or less Janus style symetric handles.See also some Dohong and dohong related daggers.
Strange thing is that some bayu's has the normal mandaushape scabbards while others have a specially designed one for the double edged blade.
Well at least these two Bayu's has found their place into a collection wich like to do some serious study on them.Lets hope in the future that more Ebayers list such nice " african swords".

VVV · 29th March 2008, 01:42 PM

Thanks all for your comments!

Ben, I think it's your turn to visit Sweden.

On the brass dots I am a bit sceptical to the "cowboy counting theory"

Willem, then we are two on the Dohong/spearblade origin as a theory...

Arjan, I think so too and that the other one is more central Borneo, maybe Kalimantan/Sarawak border? And I agree on the Dohong resemblence also on the hilt style with twin dragon heads (I haven't heard about any Janus resembling god in Borneo?).
On the mandau like scabbard mine actually originally was made for a mandau when I look inside (but the fit is perfect?).

Michael

28th March 2008, 08:02 PM	#1
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	Problem is the bayu's which are very rare also appear in various styles and shapes.That makes a study to them not easier.Most museums has only one or if you are lucky two in their collection.But if those two are totally different the only thing in common is that they are double edged and have a spearlike blade. I think ( no proof anywhere) that bayu's originally has there roots in the Ngadju area or at least in the south of Borneo. On the fist one you listed Michael I think its a Ngadju type.They seems to like to design weaponery with more or less Janus style symetric handles.See also some Dohong and dohong related daggers. Strange thing is that some bayu's has the normal mandaushape scabbards while others have a specially designed one for the double edged blade. Well at least these two Bayu's has found their place into a collection wich like to do some serious study on them.Lets hope in the future that more Ebayers list such nice " african swords".

29th March 2008, 01:42 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks all for your comments! Ben, I think it's your turn to visit Sweden. On the brass dots I am a bit sceptical to the "cowboy counting theory" Willem, then we are two on the Dohong/spearblade origin as a theory... Arjan, I think so too and that the other one is more central Borneo, maybe Kalimantan/Sarawak border? And I agree on the Dohong resemblence also on the hilt style with twin dragon heads (I haven't heard about any Janus resembling god in Borneo?). On the mandau like scabbard mine actually originally was made for a mandau when I look inside (but the fit is perfect?). Michael