Wootz or Mechanical Damascus?

ALEX · 19th March 2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff D

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I vote mechanical damascus. With that activity (tight swirls) most likely Indian made.

All the Best
Jeff

Speaking about swirls: what do you think about this image? The swirls occur in wootz as well?

Jens Nordlunde · 19th March 2008, 06:05 PM

Like said before, most likely Indian and mechanical. Here is a picture of the ladder in mechanical pattern.

rand · 19th March 2008, 07:57 PM

When I think of mechanical patterns a topography map comes to mind. If the pattern looks map like it is a mechanically made pattern. The pattern on this sword looks very map like as when elevation changes are noted, so to me its a pattern weld.

rand

RSWORD · 20th March 2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Speaking about swirls: what do you think about this image? The swirls occur in wootz as well?

Alex,

Yes, you do get swirls or circular distortions in wootz as well. Your image is most certainly wootz. And nice wootz at that!

Jeff D · 20th March 2008, 02:01 AM

Hi Alex,

As you note the swirls certainly do appear in wootz. Its how they appear that determines if they are from wootz or mechanical damascus. Like Rand states, the mechanical pattern is more topographical and actually appears to have dips and valleys. I will post a piece of Indian wootz as well for contrast.

All the Best
Jeff

ALEX · 20th March 2008, 08:47 PM

Thanks to all for collaboration, and for posting wonderful examples and fantastic damascus closeups! Finally I see a "ladder" with mechanical pattern (Thanks Jens).
Even though I consider myself wootz-knowledgeable, sometimes I am not 100% sure. Like with the blade below. I thought it is wootz (low contrast/sham), but is it?

19th March 2008, 06:05 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Like said before, most likely Indian and mechanical. Here is a picture of the ladder in mechanical pattern. Attached Images

19th March 2008, 07:57 PM	#3
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Pattern When I think of mechanical patterns a topography map comes to mind. If the pattern looks map like it is a mechanically made pattern. The pattern on this sword looks very map like as when elevation changes are noted, so to me its a pattern weld. rand

20th March 2008, 02:01 AM	#5
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Alex, As you note the swirls certainly do appear in wootz. Its how they appear that determines if they are from wootz or mechanical damascus. Like Rand states, the mechanical pattern is more topographical and actually appears to have dips and valleys. I will post a piece of Indian wootz as well for contrast. All the Best Jeff Attached Images

20th March 2008, 08:47 PM	#6
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Thanks to all for collaboration, and for posting wonderful examples and fantastic damascus closeups! Finally I see a "ladder" with mechanical pattern (Thanks Jens). Even though I consider myself wootz-knowledgeable, sometimes I am not 100% sure. Like with the blade below. I thought it is wootz (low contrast/sham), but is it? Attached Images