Tribal dart quiver

Dajak · 14th February 2008, 04:22 PM

Hi Willem show us an pic off your sumpitan it is one off the best I did ever see

Ben

asomotif · 15th February 2008, 03:40 PM

Mmmm

You show me yours, I'll show you mine...

Ps. they are not for sale / nor trade or whatever.

VANDOO · 15th February 2008, 05:02 PM

VERY NICE EXAMPLES I CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULD NOT WISH TO SELL THEM.

FROM THE PICTURE IT APPEARS THAT ONE BLADE HAS A PATTERN BUT I CAN'T TELL FOR SURE. THE OTHER BLADE IS A VERY UNUSUAL FORM I HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. I THINK THE LITTLE METAL PIECE STICKING UP OPPOSITE FROM THE BLADE IS USED FOR SIGHTING CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. THE ONES I SHOT IN BORNEO WITH THE PUNAN DID NOT HAVE BLADES OR SIGHTS SO I HAVE NEVER USED ONE WITH A SIGHT BEFORE.
I HAVE USED A MODERN METAL VERSION OF THE JIVARO BLOWGUN FOR HUNTING SMALL CRITTERS IN THE PAST ,I GOT IT IN THE 1960'S AND IT IS QUITE ACCURATE BUT HAS NO SIGHT.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTURE OF THE HUNTER I POSTED ABOVE AND I MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG SAYING IT WAS A PIG AS IT ALSO RESEMBLES A SMALL TYPE OF JUNGLE DEER FOUND IN SOME AREAS.

Dajak · 15th February 2008, 06:37 PM

Ok Willem here are mine Sumpitan s

Ben

VANDOO · 21st February 2008, 03:10 AM

THE MAJORITY OF THE BLOWGUNS I HAVE SEEN IN INDO CHINA (MALAYSIA, BORNEO, ECT) HAVE BEEN OF THE ROUND SORT AND NOT HAVING A LARGE MOUTHPIECE ADDED TO THE END. THE QUIVERS ARE USUALLY MADE OF BAMBOO AND THE DARTS USE A PITH CONE ON THE END TO SEAL THE DART IN THE TUBE. THEY ALSO HAVE A SPEAR BLADE AND METAL SIGHT, WHICH IS NOT USED IN SOUTH AMERICA. I HAVE SEEN ONE OF THE SHORT RECTANGLER ONES SAID TO BE MORO BUT THERE WAS NO PROVENANCE.

THE ONES USED IN SOUTH AMERICA ARE EITHER ROUND OR A FLAT RECTANGLER SHAPED. THE ROUND ONES HAVE THE LARGE MOUTHPIECE AND THE RETANGULAR DO NOT HAVE A MOUTH PIECE. BOTH STYLES OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN BLOWGUNS DO NOT HAVE A SPEAR BLADE. THE DART QUIVERS ARE OFTEN VERY SIMPLY MADE FROM PLANT FIBERS AND ALL USE SOME FORM OF PLANT FIBER LIKE (COTTON OR KAPOK) ON THE END TO SEAL THE LONG SPLINTER OR THORN. I THINK THERE IS A LARGER SET OF DARTS, POISON AND KAPOK THAT MAY BE LEFT AT THE CAMP WHILE HUNTING I HAVE SUCH A SET. JUST A SMALLER QUIVER WITH DARTS ALREADY PREPARED FOR USE WAS PROBABLY TAKEN ON THE HUNT. THE BLOWGUNS ARE QUITE LONG AND SOMETIMES HAVE A SIGHT MADE OF BONES OR TEETH FROM VARIOUS ANIMALS, PROBABLY TO BRING LUCK ON THE HUNT.

PICTURES ADDED ARE ALL DAYAK, SUMPIT MOUTHPEICE, BLADE, DARTS AND A TOOL FOR MAKING DARTS.
THERE IS ANOTHER BLOWGUN MADE IN THE FORM OF A DRAGON WITH A SMALL CONTAINER FOR DARTS. THE DRAGONS TAIL IS REMOVED AND THE DART INSERTED AND LEAVES THRU THE DRAGONS MOUTH. I HAVE SEEN THESE MADE OF HORN AND BONE SINCE THE 1960'S. I SUSPECT THEY ARE MADE FOR TOURISTS RATHER THAN FOR ACTUAL USE. BUT THEY ARE NEAT LOOKING.

MY THANKS TO THERION ARMS FOR SOME OF THE PICTURES I HOPE HE DOSEN'T MIND MY USING THEM FOR EXAMPLES.

VANDOO · 21st February 2008, 03:26 AM

SOUTH AMERICAN EXAMPLES FOR COMPARISON, JIVARO PREPARING DARTS, BLOWGUN AND QUIVER WITH DARTS.

VANDOO · 21st February 2008, 09:06 PM

TWO MORE FROM SOUTH AMERICA. 1. YAGUAS TRIBE PERU, HUNTER WITH A LONG BLOWGUN. 2. 1960 HUAORANI WARRIOR WITH BLOWGUN, CLUB, POISON POT AND SHRUNKEN HEAD.

15th February 2008, 03:40 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Mmmm You show me yours, I'll show you mine... Ps. they are not for sale / nor trade or whatever. Attached Images

15th February 2008, 05:02 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VERY NICE EXAMPLES I CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULD NOT WISH TO SELL THEM. FROM THE PICTURE IT APPEARS THAT ONE BLADE HAS A PATTERN BUT I CAN'T TELL FOR SURE. THE OTHER BLADE IS A VERY UNUSUAL FORM I HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. I THINK THE LITTLE METAL PIECE STICKING UP OPPOSITE FROM THE BLADE IS USED FOR SIGHTING CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. THE ONES I SHOT IN BORNEO WITH THE PUNAN DID NOT HAVE BLADES OR SIGHTS SO I HAVE NEVER USED ONE WITH A SIGHT BEFORE. I HAVE USED A MODERN METAL VERSION OF THE JIVARO BLOWGUN FOR HUNTING SMALL CRITTERS IN THE PAST ,I GOT IT IN THE 1960'S AND IT IS QUITE ACCURATE BUT HAS NO SIGHT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE PICTURE OF THE HUNTER I POSTED ABOVE AND I MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG SAYING IT WAS A PIG AS IT ALSO RESEMBLES A SMALL TYPE OF JUNGLE DEER FOUND IN SOME AREAS. Last edited by VANDOO; 16th February 2008 at 01:23 AM.

15th February 2008, 06:37 PM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Ok Willem here are mine Sumpitan s Ben Attached Images

21st February 2008, 03:10 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE MAJORITY OF THE BLOWGUNS I HAVE SEEN IN INDO CHINA (MALAYSIA, BORNEO, ECT) HAVE BEEN OF THE ROUND SORT AND NOT HAVING A LARGE MOUTHPIECE ADDED TO THE END. THE QUIVERS ARE USUALLY MADE OF BAMBOO AND THE DARTS USE A PITH CONE ON THE END TO SEAL THE DART IN THE TUBE. THEY ALSO HAVE A SPEAR BLADE AND METAL SIGHT, WHICH IS NOT USED IN SOUTH AMERICA. I HAVE SEEN ONE OF THE SHORT RECTANGLER ONES SAID TO BE MORO BUT THERE WAS NO PROVENANCE. THE ONES USED IN SOUTH AMERICA ARE EITHER ROUND OR A FLAT RECTANGLER SHAPED. THE ROUND ONES HAVE THE LARGE MOUTHPIECE AND THE RETANGULAR DO NOT HAVE A MOUTH PIECE. BOTH STYLES OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN BLOWGUNS DO NOT HAVE A SPEAR BLADE. THE DART QUIVERS ARE OFTEN VERY SIMPLY MADE FROM PLANT FIBERS AND ALL USE SOME FORM OF PLANT FIBER LIKE (COTTON OR KAPOK) ON THE END TO SEAL THE LONG SPLINTER OR THORN. I THINK THERE IS A LARGER SET OF DARTS, POISON AND KAPOK THAT MAY BE LEFT AT THE CAMP WHILE HUNTING I HAVE SUCH A SET. JUST A SMALLER QUIVER WITH DARTS ALREADY PREPARED FOR USE WAS PROBABLY TAKEN ON THE HUNT. THE BLOWGUNS ARE QUITE LONG AND SOMETIMES HAVE A SIGHT MADE OF BONES OR TEETH FROM VARIOUS ANIMALS, PROBABLY TO BRING LUCK ON THE HUNT. PICTURES ADDED ARE ALL DAYAK, SUMPIT MOUTHPEICE, BLADE, DARTS AND A TOOL FOR MAKING DARTS. THERE IS ANOTHER BLOWGUN MADE IN THE FORM OF A DRAGON WITH A SMALL CONTAINER FOR DARTS. THE DRAGONS TAIL IS REMOVED AND THE DART INSERTED AND LEAVES THRU THE DRAGONS MOUTH. I HAVE SEEN THESE MADE OF HORN AND BONE SINCE THE 1960'S. I SUSPECT THEY ARE MADE FOR TOURISTS RATHER THAN FOR ACTUAL USE. BUT THEY ARE NEAT LOOKING. MY THANKS TO THERION ARMS FOR SOME OF THE PICTURES I HOPE HE DOSEN'T MIND MY USING THEM FOR EXAMPLES. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 21st February 2008 at 03:28 AM.

21st February 2008, 03:26 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SOUTH AMERICAN EXAMPLES FOR COMPARISON, JIVARO PREPARING DARTS, BLOWGUN AND QUIVER WITH DARTS. Attached Images

14th February 2008, 04:22 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem show us an pic off your sumpitan it is one off the best I did ever see Ben

21st February 2008, 09:06 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TWO MORE FROM SOUTH AMERICA. 1. YAGUAS TRIBE PERU, HUNTER WITH A LONG BLOWGUN. 2. 1960 HUAORANI WARRIOR WITH BLOWGUN, CLUB, POISON POT AND SHRUNKEN HEAD. Attached Images