Sumatran Dagger: Lopah Petawaran

kai · 23rd January 2008, 09:20 PM

Congrats, Charles!

I'm hoping for even more examples to be posted!

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 23rd January 2008, 10:28 PM

Here here! These are lovely puppies (woof!

).

Javagolok, I don't have any either. May be one day when I grow up..........

Maurice · 24th January 2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Javagolok, I don't have any either. May be one day when I grow up..........

Battara,

I think most of us will only SHRUNK in future instead of GROW.

Maurice · 6th August 2008, 09:01 AM

Bringing up this old thread of Charless, I just read some additional information about this weapon in the book: Alte Kulturen auf Sumatra-Java-Borneo!

It seems that it is also called "rentsung" (which name is not mentioned in the book of Zonneveld), not to confuse with the traditional rencong from Aceh.
Among other things, one thing is that the first haircut of a child was done by this knife.

paolo · 4th November 2008, 07:27 PM

At last, also I have a Lopah patawaran

. Very expensive, however I was searching for one by many time. I send some pics to share it.
The blade (the tip is a little worn) and the ferrule are of good pamor. Someone may see, as I think, a squatted man on the ferrule ? (pic 4 )
The ornamental silver work on the sheat is for me quite strange. Might You explain to me its meaning ?
Paolo

Dajak · 4th November 2008, 08:11 PM

These knife s are for ceremonial use .

Ben

Rick · 4th November 2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paolo

At last, also I have a Lopah patawaran

. Very expensive, however I was searching for one by many time. I send some pics to share it.
The blade (the tip is a little worn) and the ferrule are of good pamor. Someone may see, as I think, a squatted man on the ferrule ? (pic 4 )
The ornamental silver work on the sheat is for me quite strange. Might You explain to me its meaning ?
Paolo

This ?? (copy and paste)

See society .

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Batak-(Indonesia)

paolo · 5th November 2008, 07:30 PM

Rick,
the first time I look at the sheat I thought to a cross, but knowing nothing about the Christian missions in Sumatra, I belive the ornamental work might have another meaning. If your assumption is right, my dagger should be end of 19th century.
Thank you for your help.
Paolo

6th August 2008, 09:01 AM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	additional fun info Bringing up this old thread of Charless, I just read some additional information about this weapon in the book: Alte Kulturen auf Sumatra-Java-Borneo! It seems that it is also called "rentsung" (which name is not mentioned in the book of Zonneveld), not to confuse with the traditional rencong from Aceh. Among other things, one thing is that the first haircut of a child was done by this knife.

4th November 2008, 07:27 PM	#5
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	At last, also I have a Lopah patawaran . Very expensive, however I was searching for one by many time. I send some pics to share it. The blade (the tip is a little worn) and the ferrule are of good pamor. Someone may see, as I think, a squatted man on the ferrule ? (pic 4 ) The ornamental silver work on the sheat is for me quite strange. Might You explain to me its meaning ? Paolo Attached Images

23rd January 2008, 09:20 PM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Congrats, Charles! I'm hoping for even more examples to be posted! Regards, Kai

23rd January 2008, 10:28 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Here here! These are lovely puppies (woof! ). Javagolok, I don't have any either. May be one day when I grow up..........

4th November 2008, 08:11 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	These knife s are for ceremonial use . Ben

5th November 2008, 07:30 PM	#8
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	Rick, the first time I look at the sheat I thought to a cross, but knowing nothing about the Christian missions in Sumatra, I belive the ornamental work might have another meaning. If your assumption is right, my dagger should be end of 19th century. Thank you for your help. Paolo