genuine of fake?

Tim Simmons · 12th January 2008, 10:23 PM

In a tooth and claw open market why are these people being strung up. Just because you are rich and buy a fake or dud why should you be protected by the law? They made this stuff in there garden shed??? All that bollocks education and posh art market nonesence leveled by a couple of rough necks.

A. G. Maisey · 13th January 2008, 01:08 AM

Tim, I was not writing of myself, but a very famous fellow who is now a Javanese Prince and has been a directive force in Indonesian society since the days of Sukarno. A very, very important, knowledgeable and influential man. Not a nonentity like myself.

But yes, I have made errors. These days, very, very few, in fact, I cannot recall any recent material errors at all, but going back 40 years and more I made quite a few. In light of my knowledge at that time, none were avoidable, I only had experience in the keris in the Australian environment until I was well into my twenties,and this was not enough back prior to the increased flow of information generated by the internet and all the new publications.

I have always thought of these errors, and the costs involved in learning about the keris, as education expenses. How much does a degree cost ? How much does it cost to put a kid through primary school? All education costs money. You pay the tuition costs and move on. If I add up what it has cost me to learn about keris, I could probably have paid for several post graduate degrees. At least.

But the bottom line is that I can still make a mistake.

This realisation is probably the most important single thing I have learnt.

12th January 2008, 10:23 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	In a tooth and claw open market why are these people being strung up. Just because you are rich and buy a fake or dud why should you be protected by the law? They made this stuff in there garden shed??? All that bollocks education and posh art market nonesence leveled by a couple of rough necks.

13th January 2008, 01:08 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,016	Tim, I was not writing of myself, but a very famous fellow who is now a Javanese Prince and has been a directive force in Indonesian society since the days of Sukarno. A very, very important, knowledgeable and influential man. Not a nonentity like myself. But yes, I have made errors. These days, very, very few, in fact, I cannot recall any recent material errors at all, but going back 40 years and more I made quite a few. In light of my knowledge at that time, none were avoidable, I only had experience in the keris in the Australian environment until I was well into my twenties,and this was not enough back prior to the increased flow of information generated by the internet and all the new publications. I have always thought of these errors, and the costs involved in learning about the keris, as education expenses. How much does a degree cost ? How much does it cost to put a kid through primary school? All education costs money. You pay the tuition costs and move on. If I add up what it has cost me to learn about keris, I could probably have paid for several post graduate degrees. At least. But the bottom line is that I can still make a mistake. This realisation is probably the most important single thing I have learnt.