AssadUllah Cartouche/Stamp

ward · 6th January 2008, 06:05 PM

I doubt that it is a tiger with Assad Allah on it. I always thought the lion looked like a frightened kitty cat but I know that is not the case. One of the important things to remember in Islamic weapons is that it is heavily based on tradition. That is why you see many forms and decoration unchanged for 100’s of years. A good example of this is the Arabic language. Since Allah gave the written form directly to Mohammed the words of god can not be changed. The alphabet and spelling has not changed in over 1300 years {approximate} The language has been added to but not changed.

rand · 6th January 2008, 10:04 PM

The symbol of the tiger has a long tradition in Islamic history. During the reign of the Mamluks the Sultan (they had different names for the ruler) had a special robe decorated with tiger stripes thas was a symbol of one of the Mamluk orders. Tiger was also a popular name, Babur, Tipu and the blazon of Sultan Baybars was a tiger. In Mongolian and Uyghhur bars means tiger. Have often wonder if they have been any mis-translations for the word tiger. There are references to tiger, lion and panther relating to bravery and tenaciousness in Islamic history.

rand

ward · 6th January 2008, 11:06 PM

Assad Allah= Lion of God

why would you have a picture of anything else ? If it did not have assad written on it I could see a tiger or cat but this is not the case

ALEX · 7th January 2008, 09:19 AM

Yes, good point Ward. I must agree with you. Thanks much!

6th January 2008, 10:04 PM	#2
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Tiger, Lion, Panther The symbol of the tiger has a long tradition in Islamic history. During the reign of the Mamluks the Sultan (they had different names for the ruler) had a special robe decorated with tiger stripes thas was a symbol of one of the Mamluk orders. Tiger was also a popular name, Babur, Tipu and the blazon of Sultan Baybars was a tiger. In Mongolian and Uyghhur bars means tiger. Have often wonder if they have been any mis-translations for the word tiger. There are references to tiger, lion and panther relating to bravery and tenaciousness in Islamic history. rand

6th January 2008, 06:05 PM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	I doubt that it is a tiger with Assad Allah on it. I always thought the lion looked like a frightened kitty cat but I know that is not the case. One of the important things to remember in Islamic weapons is that it is heavily based on tradition. That is why you see many forms and decoration unchanged for 100’s of years. A good example of this is the Arabic language. Since Allah gave the written form directly to Mohammed the words of god can not be changed. The alphabet and spelling has not changed in over 1300 years {approximate} The language has been added to but not changed.

6th January 2008, 11:06 PM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Assad Allah= Lion of God why would you have a picture of anything else ? If it did not have assad written on it I could see a tiger or cat but this is not the case

7th January 2008, 09:19 AM	#4
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Yes, good point Ward. I must agree with you. Thanks much!