Help needed with Tulwar.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th December 2007, 06:11 PM

Well, now that Richard has told us that it is an acid treatment the tulwar has had, is seems rather clear that he is right. Not only has he recieved it, and has it in his hands, but the colour is what it looks like when having been acid treated - look at it, and don't forget the colour - never.
Now you know the colour, if you see one, run down the street where you live, screaming if may be, but don't but it, or you may be in for a surprice, that it is not paint.

Pukka Bundook · 27th December 2007, 06:46 PM

Jans,
I may be on the lookout for another................with Rust this time!!
I'd prefer rust to angle grinder and acid treatment!!

RSWORD · 27th December 2007, 06:59 PM

To answer one of your original questions you can definitely see the lamination in the blade. I can clearly see the wavy pattern along the edge and it appears as though it may turn back and around the tip which would be a neat and unusual feature. The middle portion of the blade would most probably have the larger, more open pattern that looks like large circular distortions. Most certainly a pattern welded blade.

Henk · 27th December 2007, 08:15 PM

I don't know either what happened with this piece, but RSWORD is right. A patterned welded blade.

As Jeff and Ward said happy working. I think it is worth the effort to get this tulwar back in shape and finish it with an etch.
Just like you restored that tulwar that was abused with a grinder. You did an awsome job then and I'm sure you can do it again.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th December 2007, 09:41 PM

Richard,
I had another view on the blade - and it is in a bad condition - in a realy bad one.
The fact that the pattern is in relief after the acid bath, does indicate that it is pattern welded, so take your time - and let us know

- yes I know, but still.
Jens

Robert · 28th December 2007, 03:54 AM

This looks more like silica sand blasting

with a fine grade of sand (it not only removes rust but also softer metals) than acid etching to me. JMHO

Robert

Pukka Bundook · 28th December 2007, 04:13 AM

Thank you for the words of confidence. It appears some have more confidence in my ability to put it right, than I have!

Robert,
I know it looks like sand-blasting. but on the pommel disc, there is some silver koftgari remaining, and this is still smooth, whilst the steel around it is pitted like the rest of the sword. Therfore iI can only think it was a pretty savage acid that was used.

R.

27th December 2007, 06:11 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Well, now that Richard has told us that it is an acid treatment the tulwar has had, is seems rather clear that he is right. Not only has he recieved it, and has it in his hands, but the colour is what it looks like when having been acid treated - look at it, and don't forget the colour - never. Now you know the colour, if you see one, run down the street where you live, screaming if may be, but don't but it, or you may be in for a surprice, that it is not paint.

27th December 2007, 06:46 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jans, I may be on the lookout for another................with Rust this time!! I'd prefer rust to angle grinder and acid treatment!!

27th December 2007, 06:59 PM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,089	To answer one of your original questions you can definitely see the lamination in the blade. I can clearly see the wavy pattern along the edge and it appears as though it may turn back and around the tip which would be a neat and unusual feature. The middle portion of the blade would most probably have the larger, more open pattern that looks like large circular distortions. Most certainly a pattern welded blade.

27th December 2007, 08:15 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I don't know either what happened with this piece, but RSWORD is right. A patterned welded blade. As Jeff and Ward said happy working. I think it is worth the effort to get this tulwar back in shape and finish it with an etch. Just like you restored that tulwar that was abused with a grinder. You did an awsome job then and I'm sure you can do it again.

27th December 2007, 09:41 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Richard, I had another view on the blade - and it is in a bad condition - in a realy bad one. The fact that the pattern is in relief after the acid bath, does indicate that it is pattern welded, so take your time - and let us know - yes I know, but still. Jens

28th December 2007, 03:54 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	This looks more like silica sand blasting with a fine grade of sand (it not only removes rust but also softer metals) than acid etching to me. JMHO Robert

28th December 2007, 04:13 AM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Thank you for the words of confidence. It appears some have more confidence in my ability to put it right, than I have! Robert, I know it looks like sand-blasting. but on the pommel disc, there is some silver koftgari remaining, and this is still smooth, whilst the steel around it is pitted like the rest of the sword. Therfore iI can only think it was a pretty savage acid that was used. R.