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			hello George i mean that the isi or spirit how you call it sometimes the strength so far gone is that now offering ore  pray can help to get it back  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	because the keris have for years no offerings or other things to keep its power and i will go away in the long term and you have a kris with now power you hef three type of power one that the Empu call in so you can say the power of god ore creator two the power will cal in the keris with a mantra but this kind of power will not stay for a longer time so you hef to repeat the ritual for keeping the power in to the keris three some djin live in the keris ( this is not a nice thing to have in your keris ore house ) regarts Semar  | 
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