New Tulwar

BBJW · 22nd December 2007, 09:55 PM

The brass hilt is much newer. Beware of brass, but the blade I believe is old. There are so many fakes out there now that I prefer to see them in person.

bbjw

ALEX · 23rd December 2007, 12:24 AM

Ariel, here is the picture of similarly shaped brass hilt of late 19th Cent.
Also, it is very nice of you, as an expert, to be asking us for advice on how to clean and etch the blade:-) It makes us feel a bit superior:-)

RSWORD · 23rd December 2007, 03:08 AM

Ariel,

Good snag. I noticed that one also and could see even from the poor pictures provided that the blade had a nice pattern welded blade. Also, I do not believe the hilt to be brass. Look closely. It appears to be an old gold leaf on a steel or iron hilt. I can see a bit of the leaf wearing out in spots. 19th century is the safest estimation of age but I wouldn't be surprised if it was late 18th century. Just a gut thing though.

Jim McDougall · 23rd December 2007, 03:45 AM

I'm with you Rick on this tulwar, that hilt does look like gilt metal, which would likely correspond to this apparantly higher end blade. The stamp in the area seen here seems to be the location preferred for what appear to be these markings which I believe may be in Urdu. At least some of the tulwars I have seen with heavy blades were stamped in the same location which proved to be Urdu, and the blades were of late 18th century.

I think you're right on the blade BJ, and it would seem quite likely that a blade of this quality might be a heirloom and mounted with what appears a 19th century gilt metal hilt.

All best regards,
Jim

ariel · 23rd December 2007, 04:07 PM

Thanks for the responses.
I was remiss in not mentioning that the hilt is NOT brass: it is iron with rather crudish gold paint. There are some traces of "gold" on the adhesive under the langets.
But the handle is iron, no argument here. The blade is superb: massive, no nicks, no damage at all and still fully sharp. I suspect it must be pretty old and not a regulation weapon :-)
Any more precise ideas about the mark?

23rd December 2007, 12:24 AM	#2
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Ariel, here is the picture of similarly shaped brass hilt of late 19th Cent. Also, it is very nice of you, as an expert, to be asking us for advice on how to clean and etch the blade:-) It makes us feel a bit superior:-) Attached Images

22nd December 2007, 09:55 PM	#1
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 228	The brass hilt is much newer. Beware of brass, but the blade I believe is old. There are so many fakes out there now that I prefer to see them in person. bbjw

23rd December 2007, 03:08 AM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,087	Ariel, Good snag. I noticed that one also and could see even from the poor pictures provided that the blade had a nice pattern welded blade. Also, I do not believe the hilt to be brass. Look closely. It appears to be an old gold leaf on a steel or iron hilt. I can see a bit of the leaf wearing out in spots. 19th century is the safest estimation of age but I wouldn't be surprised if it was late 18th century. Just a gut thing though.

23rd December 2007, 03:45 AM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,283	I'm with you Rick on this tulwar, that hilt does look like gilt metal, which would likely correspond to this apparantly higher end blade. The stamp in the area seen here seems to be the location preferred for what appear to be these markings which I believe may be in Urdu. At least some of the tulwars I have seen with heavy blades were stamped in the same location which proved to be Urdu, and the blades were of late 18th century. I think you're right on the blade BJ, and it would seem quite likely that a blade of this quality might be a heirloom and mounted with what appears a 19th century gilt metal hilt. All best regards, Jim

23rd December 2007, 04:07 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Thanks for the responses. I was remiss in not mentioning that the hilt is NOT brass: it is iron with rather crudish gold paint. There are some traces of "gold" on the adhesive under the langets. But the handle is iron, no argument here. The blade is superb: massive, no nicks, no damage at all and still fully sharp. I suspect it must be pretty old and not a regulation weapon :-) Any more precise ideas about the mark?