Another tulwar

fernando · 11th December 2007, 09:17 PM

Hi Sandeepsingh.
Thanks a lot for your posting.
Are you referring to the same situation quoted by RSWORD in earlier posting #6, where he used the terms "wavy undulating efects" ?
It happens that the cloudy efects in this blade are not so dense and i can not manage to get better pictures of it. Or are you referring to a different type of details ?
Could you also coment on the multi dots stroke near the blade forte ? Are they any kind of markings ?
Please come again with further observations on this piece, you feel like.
Thanks again
Fernando

sandeepsingh · 12th December 2007, 05:27 AM

Hi Fernando,
Thanks for observing my views, according to my view its a Cloudy or Wavy patterns. These days the damascus steel is generally made up of 512 layers while in old damascus steel there are not so much layers it may be 64 layers or lower layers only thats why it have cloudy or wavy patterns.
In my views its not an effects its a damascus steel only with Cloudy or wavy patterns.
These marks are makers mark only.
These types of blades also comes in plain carbon steel with fullers.
But i steel need a detail pic of blade for my conclusion.

fernando · 12th December 2007, 03:22 PM

Hi Sandeepsingh
This is the best i could get, hoping these were the blade details you meant. These situations are dificult to capture; they are certainly more visible at naked eye, although not much pronounced, as i previously said.
So the dots are maker's marks ?! Could you tell what region they are from ?
Would you agree that the brass nickled hilt is end 19th century, and the blade is certainly older ?
Thank you for your further coments
Fernando

sandeepsingh · 12th December 2007, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the more detail images.
Now i can conclude that the blade is made up of Damascus Steel with Cloudy or wavy pattern.
The hilt seems 20C. but the blade is 19C.
Dots or strokes are the makers mark probably from Rajasthan or Madhya Pradesh region.

fernando · 12th December 2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandeepsingh

Thanks for the more detail images.
Now i can conclude that the blade is made up of Damascus Steel with Cloudy or wavy pattern.
The hilt seems 20C. but the blade is 19C.
Dots or strokes are the makers mark probably from Rajasthan or Madhya Pradesh region.

Thank you ever so much for your precious input.
Fernando

12th December 2007, 05:27 AM	#2
sandeepsingh Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: India Posts: 85	Hi Fernando, Thanks for observing my views, according to my view its a Cloudy or Wavy patterns. These days the damascus steel is generally made up of 512 layers while in old damascus steel there are not so much layers it may be 64 layers or lower layers only thats why it have cloudy or wavy patterns. In my views its not an effects its a damascus steel only with Cloudy or wavy patterns. These marks are makers mark only. These types of blades also comes in plain carbon steel with fullers. But i steel need a detail pic of blade for my conclusion. Attached Images

12th December 2007, 03:22 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Sandeepsingh This is the best i could get, hoping these were the blade details you meant. These situations are dificult to capture; they are certainly more visible at naked eye, although not much pronounced, as i previously said. So the dots are maker's marks ?! Could you tell what region they are from ? Would you agree that the brass nickled hilt is end 19th century, and the blade is certainly older ? Thank you for your further coments Fernando Attached Images

11th December 2007, 09:17 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Sandeepsingh. Thanks a lot for your posting. Are you referring to the same situation quoted by RSWORD in earlier posting #6, where he used the terms "wavy undulating efects" ? It happens that the cloudy efects in this blade are not so dense and i can not manage to get better pictures of it. Or are you referring to a different type of details ? Could you also coment on the multi dots stroke near the blade forte ? Are they any kind of markings ? Please come again with further observations on this piece, you feel like. Thanks again Fernando

12th December 2007, 03:32 PM	#4
sandeepsingh Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: India Posts: 85	Thanks for the more detail images. Now i can conclude that the blade is made up of Damascus Steel with Cloudy or wavy pattern. The hilt seems 20C. but the blade is 19C. Dots or strokes are the makers mark probably from Rajasthan or Madhya Pradesh region.