Tulwar Inscription

Jim McDougall · 8th December 2007, 03:58 PM

Well said Nidhi! That makes sense that it might be an arsenal marking as well. It seems to recall, though obviously not the same, the punched dot script from the Bikaneer armoury. With the trimurthi component established, and of course the Hindu association, possibly this would be a Rajput weapon. What do you think Jens?

Norman, could we see the rest of the sword?

Jens Nordlunde · 8th December 2007, 04:21 PM

Hi Jim,

From what we have seen of the blade, it looks nice, but I can’t from what we have seen, start guessing from where in India it is.

I can’t say that it is not an armoury mark, as I don’t know, but to me it is strange as the armoury marks normally consists of letters and numerals, or maybe sometimes of a mark, like, maybe, the katar (if this is an armoury mark) or some other mark. What bothers me is, that most of the armoury marks I have seen use numbers, so they must have had quite a good check on the weapons in the armoury, so why, all of a sudden, use a marking, which does not fit in any of the Indian languages that we know of?

Jens

spiral · 8th December 2007, 04:22 PM

It reminds me of script marks ive seen on some old Afghan weapons.

Spiral

Jim McDougall · 9th December 2007, 10:13 PM

Norman,
Has any of the discussion so far been of any interest?
Perhaps your participation could help us learn something from this weapon which has of course interested us.

I agree Jens, the armoury markings would typically be with numbers and as has been noted by Olikara, these characters do not correspond with Indian alphabets he is aware of.
The characters inverted as you have suggested make the circle and three dots reminiscent of a paw print ( much in mind after nature trails here in Arizona

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Spiral, do you have any examples of this Afghan script? What type weapons does it occur on?

All best regards,
Jim

8th December 2007, 03:58 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,616	Well said Nidhi! That makes sense that it might be an arsenal marking as well. It seems to recall, though obviously not the same, the punched dot script from the Bikaneer armoury. With the trimurthi component established, and of course the Hindu association, possibly this would be a Rajput weapon. What do you think Jens? Norman, could we see the rest of the sword?

8th December 2007, 04:21 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Jim, From what we have seen of the blade, it looks nice, but I can’t from what we have seen, start guessing from where in India it is. I can’t say that it is not an armoury mark, as I don’t know, but to me it is strange as the armoury marks normally consists of letters and numerals, or maybe sometimes of a mark, like, maybe, the katar (if this is an armoury mark) or some other mark. What bothers me is, that most of the armoury marks I have seen use numbers, so they must have had quite a good check on the weapons in the armoury, so why, all of a sudden, use a marking, which does not fit in any of the Indian languages that we know of? Jens

8th December 2007, 04:22 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	It reminds me of script marks ive seen on some old Afghan weapons. Spiral

9th December 2007, 10:13 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,616	Norman, Has any of the discussion so far been of any interest? Perhaps your participation could help us learn something from this weapon which has of course interested us. I agree Jens, the armoury markings would typically be with numbers and as has been noted by Olikara, these characters do not correspond with Indian alphabets he is aware of. The characters inverted as you have suggested make the circle and three dots reminiscent of a paw print ( much in mind after nature trails here in Arizona . Spiral, do you have any examples of this Afghan script? What type weapons does it occur on? All best regards, Jim