Origin of scabbards

PUFF · 17th November 2007, 12:37 PM

Their prices are range from 20 USD for boar hunter to 40-45 USD for longer peices.

As I told you, the blades are well treated and tangs are secured. They are absolutely functional.

But their down side 's the scabbards/handle are made of softwood (pine?) instead of hardwood. The rattan string are replaced with metal wire. And the decorations were burn-in instead of carve-in. But I could be wrong, though.

Do you guys have any genuine piece of austro-indonesian aboriginese knife/scabbard ?

dennee · 17th November 2007, 05:51 PM

The "Bhutanese" shortsword is the shortsword or "ban" of the Rongpa (generally known as Lepcha from the Nepalese "Lapche"). There were presumably some Lepchas in the heavily wooded valleys of Bhutan, but their homeland is more properly Sikkim, separated from Bhutan by the Tibetan Chumbi Valley. Of course, national boundaries fail to neatly circumscribe peoples.

yuanzhumin · 18th November 2007, 03:41 AM

Hi guys,
-For the Ebay knife, it is an “authentic” tourist knife made 50 years ago for the American troops stationed in Taiwan. The guy that bought it first here (in Taiwan), at the beginning of the 1950s, must have then been transferred to Japan. You can see another sample pictured on the page of my website plus my comments in general about the Taiwan aboriginal fake or tourist/airport art.
-For The Taiwan and the Philippines link, it has been demonstrated that Taiwan is the cradle of the Austronesian civilization. The Austronesian people went to the east to Easter Island, and to the west to Madagascar. The Hawaiian, the Tahitian, the Maoris…. are all from Austronesian origin. The indigenous people of Philippines are also, as the Philippines islands were the first they settled in when beginning their vast migration from Taiwan down to the whole Pacific. On the forum part of my website, I recently posted an article on this subject.
http://formosatribal.aceboard.com/27...an-origins.htm
-For the authentic stuff, I have around 20 authentic knives and other weapons from the Taiwan aborigines that are exhibited on my website. They are classified in different ethnic groups. Check on them and also on the links part, as you can find a link to museums and other websites interested in the same subject.
www.formosatribal.com
Best,
yuanzhumin

PUFF · 18th November 2007, 01:38 PM

That is!!!.. I was so stupid. There 's an aboriginese museum in Taipei, just 4 stations from my place. And I forgot that!!! I 'm leaving Taipei at the end of this month.... Better visit it on next weekend.

yuanzhumin · 19th November 2007, 02:09 AM

Hi PUFF

If you are in Taipei, here are the links to the 2 museums currently exhibiting Taiwan aboriginal art in the capital city.

The Shung Ye Museum of Formosan aborigines
http://museum.cca.gov.tw/en/directory/show.php?id=60
http://www.sinica.edu.tw/tit/museums/1294_shung-ye.html

The National Taiwan Museum
http://www.ntm.gov.tw/eng/eng_index.asp

This third museum is in the suburbs of Taipei and does have nice archeological exhibits on a permanent basis. Next month, it will also have a special exhibit for 9 months on Paiwan art, in which two dozens of pieces will come from my collection.
http://www.sshm.tpc.gov.tw/web/Home?...lay&page=flash

Best,
Yuanzhumin

PUFF · 19th November 2007, 11:18 AM

Hi yuanzhumin, Many thanks for the links. I will visit The Shung Ye Museum of Formosan aborigines this weekend. I have to come back here around x'mas. So I can attend the special exhibition at the archeological museum too.

By the way, does traditional chinese weaponary house at Rau He night market (near songshan station) worth for visit?

yuanzhumin · 19th November 2007, 01:42 PM

Hi PUFF
Wow, I have not been back to this night market for at least ten years, despite the fact I'm not living that far away from it. I have been more often in the Tunghua Street Night market and the biggest one, in Shilin. If I don't remember seeing any chinese weaponry shop at the Rao He market, this reminds me about the deep fried crab and the oyster omelet you can taste there.
By the way, I published in a post last year a link to an article about a knife maker whose shop is in the Shilin night market. So if you have the time !
Enjoy your stay in Taipei
Yuanzhumin

18th November 2007, 03:41 AM	#3
yuanzhumin Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex-Taipei, Taiwan, now in Shanghai, China Posts: 180	Taiwan austornesian people and weapons Hi guys, -For the Ebay knife, it is an “authentic” tourist knife made 50 years ago for the American troops stationed in Taiwan. The guy that bought it first here (in Taiwan), at the beginning of the 1950s, must have then been transferred to Japan. You can see another sample pictured on the page of my website plus my comments in general about the Taiwan aboriginal fake or tourist/airport art. -For The Taiwan and the Philippines link, it has been demonstrated that Taiwan is the cradle of the Austronesian civilization. The Austronesian people went to the east to Easter Island, and to the west to Madagascar. The Hawaiian, the Tahitian, the Maoris…. are all from Austronesian origin. The indigenous people of Philippines are also, as the Philippines islands were the first they settled in when beginning their vast migration from Taiwan down to the whole Pacific. On the forum part of my website, I recently posted an article on this subject. http://formosatribal.aceboard.com/27...an-origins.htm -For the authentic stuff, I have around 20 authentic knives and other weapons from the Taiwan aborigines that are exhibited on my website. They are classified in different ethnic groups. Check on them and also on the links part, as you can find a link to museums and other websites interested in the same subject. www.formosatribal.com Best, yuanzhumin

19th November 2007, 02:09 AM	#5
yuanzhumin Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex-Taipei, Taiwan, now in Shanghai, China Posts: 180	Exhibits in Taipei Hi PUFF If you are in Taipei, here are the links to the 2 museums currently exhibiting Taiwan aboriginal art in the capital city. The Shung Ye Museum of Formosan aborigines http://museum.cca.gov.tw/en/directory/show.php?id=60 http://www.sinica.edu.tw/tit/museums/1294_shung-ye.html The National Taiwan Museum http://www.ntm.gov.tw/eng/eng_index.asp This third museum is in the suburbs of Taipei and does have nice archeological exhibits on a permanent basis. Next month, it will also have a special exhibit for 9 months on Paiwan art, in which two dozens of pieces will come from my collection. http://www.sshm.tpc.gov.tw/web/Home?...lay&page=flash Best, Yuanzhumin

17th November 2007, 12:37 PM	#1
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Their prices are range from 20 USD for boar hunter to 40-45 USD for longer peices. As I told you, the blades are well treated and tangs are secured. They are absolutely functional. But their down side 's the scabbards/handle are made of softwood (pine?) instead of hardwood. The rattan string are replaced with metal wire. And the decorations were burn-in instead of carve-in. But I could be wrong, though. Do you guys have any genuine piece of austro-indonesian aboriginese knife/scabbard ?

17th November 2007, 05:51 PM	#2
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	The "Bhutanese" shortsword is the shortsword or "ban" of the Rongpa (generally known as Lepcha from the Nepalese "Lapche"). There were presumably some Lepchas in the heavily wooded valleys of Bhutan, but their homeland is more properly Sikkim, separated from Bhutan by the Tibetan Chumbi Valley. Of course, national boundaries fail to neatly circumscribe peoples.

18th November 2007, 01:38 PM	#4
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	That is!!!.. I was so stupid. There 's an aboriginese museum in Taipei, just 4 stations from my place. And I forgot that!!! I 'm leaving Taipei at the end of this month.... Better visit it on next weekend.

19th November 2007, 11:18 AM	#6
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Hi yuanzhumin, Many thanks for the links. I will visit The Shung Ye Museum of Formosan aborigines this weekend. I have to come back here around x'mas. So I can attend the special exhibition at the archeological museum too. By the way, does traditional chinese weaponary house at Rau He night market (near songshan station) worth for visit?

19th November 2007, 01:42 PM	#7
yuanzhumin Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ex-Taipei, Taiwan, now in Shanghai, China Posts: 180	Hi PUFF Wow, I have not been back to this night market for at least ten years, despite the fact I'm not living that far away from it. I have been more often in the Tunghua Street Night market and the biggest one, in Shilin. If I don't remember seeing any chinese weaponry shop at the Rao He market, this reminds me about the deep fried crab and the oyster omelet you can taste there. By the way, I published in a post last year a link to an article about a knife maker whose shop is in the Shilin night market. So if you have the time ! Enjoy your stay in Taipei Yuanzhumin