Repairing the hilt on a visayan sword

wilked aka Khun Deng · 15th March 2005, 11:36 AM

Ian et all, Am Sorry I have been absent. Wonderful blade and a great job on the rehilting! Have not found one of these yet in Manila, howver I'm still looking!

Ian · 28th March 2005, 05:10 AM

Another similar one that just ended on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6519537548

Could our Visayan experts perhaps give an approximate date to this sword. This is a nice example and looks to be all there, including a scabbard that may be original to the sword. I notice that the prices on these are rising also.

Ferguson · 28th March 2005, 10:57 AM

I was trying for that one Ian, as was Labantayo. Prices are going nuts. I bid enough that I KNEW I would win, but still got outbid. I would love to see an estimate of the age as well. I'm no expert. Just like them.
Steve

Bill · 28th March 2005, 12:50 PM

Small brass sheets found at hobby stores are usefull in repairs. Have found brass foil perfect for wraping the peksi of a keris. Not sure where to buy it, should be available on the internet, but it is also in "shielded" electrical & communications cable. Suppose copper just as good. The guage of aluminum foil seems a bit to thick &, but may be usefull for some. Don't think any of these would help much with a retangular tang.

Mare Rosu · 28th March 2005, 01:37 PM

Ian
You did a most masterfully repair.

Bill and othersThis is a link to just one of many manufactures of shim stock. http://www.artuscorp.com/stock.htm
What is nice about this one is that the stock is colored coded to it's thickness and can be gotten in, Copper, SS as well as plastic.
Gene

Ian · 28th March 2005, 05:02 PM

Bill and Gene: Thanks for the helpful ideas and the source of materials graded by thickness.

Steve: The market is getting crazy. Seems as though there could be a few people quietly watching this Forum and getting a handle on what is worth collecting. I've noticed prices have climbed 100% or more in the last few years on stuff that virtually nobody used to bid on. Look at the Bagobo swords, for example. Just a couple of years ago, these often went for $100-120, now you can't get near a halfway decent one for less $200. There was an old Visayan talibon (gareb?) that went for big bucks this weekend too.

Federico · 29th March 2005, 04:24 AM

Since no one else has responded on the age of the ebay piece, a while back Zel had said ones with guards were older than ones without guards, and the wood guards are even older. That, and considering the wonderful pics of the collections in Spain given to us by Engar, perhaps 19 century or far older.

Rick · 29th March 2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Bill and Gene: Thanks for the helpful ideas and the source of materials graded by thickness.

Steve: The market is getting crazy. Seems as though there could be a few people quietly watching this Forum and getting a handle on what is worth collecting. I've noticed prices have climbed 100% or more in the last few years on stuff that virtually nobody used to bid on. Look at the Bagobo swords, for example. Just a couple of years ago, these often went for $100-120, now you can't get near a halfway decent one for less $200. There was an old Visayan talibon (gareb?) that went for big bucks this weekend too.

Sadly gentlemen , I've got to believe that because of the interest and discussion of these (formerly sleeper) pieces here the prices are skyrocketing in part due to the attention they receive on this forum .

28th March 2005, 01:37 PM	#5
Mare Rosu Deceased Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA, DEEP SOUTH, GEORGIA, Y'all hear? Posts: 121	Colored shim stock Ian You did a most masterfully repair. Bill and othersThis is a link to just one of many manufactures of shim stock. http://www.artuscorp.com/stock.htm What is nice about this one is that the stock is colored coded to it's thickness and can be gotten in, Copper, SS as well as plastic. Gene

15th March 2005, 11:36 AM	#1
wilked aka Khun Deng Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 166	Ian et all, Am Sorry I have been absent. Wonderful blade and a great job on the rehilting! Have not found one of these yet in Manila, howver I'm still looking!

28th March 2005, 05:10 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,363	Another similar one that just ended on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6519537548 Could our Visayan experts perhaps give an approximate date to this sword. This is a nice example and looks to be all there, including a scabbard that may be original to the sword. I notice that the prices on these are rising also.

28th March 2005, 10:57 AM	#3
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	I was trying for that one Ian, as was Labantayo. Prices are going nuts. I bid enough that I KNEW I would win, but still got outbid. I would love to see an estimate of the age as well. I'm no expert. Just like them. Steve

28th March 2005, 12:50 PM	#4
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Small brass sheets found at hobby stores are usefull in repairs. Have found brass foil perfect for wraping the peksi of a keris. Not sure where to buy it, should be available on the internet, but it is also in "shielded" electrical & communications cable. Suppose copper just as good. The guage of aluminum foil seems a bit to thick &, but may be usefull for some. Don't think any of these would help much with a retangular tang.

28th March 2005, 05:02 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,363	Bill and Gene: Thanks for the helpful ideas and the source of materials graded by thickness. Steve: The market is getting crazy. Seems as though there could be a few people quietly watching this Forum and getting a handle on what is worth collecting. I've noticed prices have climbed 100% or more in the last few years on stuff that virtually nobody used to bid on. Look at the Bagobo swords, for example. Just a couple of years ago, these often went for $100-120, now you can't get near a halfway decent one for less $200. There was an old Visayan talibon (gareb?) that went for big bucks this weekend too.

29th March 2005, 04:24 AM	#7
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	Since no one else has responded on the age of the ebay piece, a while back Zel had said ones with guards were older than ones without guards, and the wood guards are even older. That, and considering the wonderful pics of the collections in Spain given to us by Engar, perhaps 19 century or far older.